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but thats the whole point of it. OTT is what manga does best.
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I nearly forgot i watched that....im not sure how though its pretty sick lol. I don't know if you would be interested but the Spawn cartoons arent too bad. I picked them up for a couple of quid.
most of us in the uk are still hung back on anime that was out like 2 decades ago
for what it's worth, (i'm not really into scifi so can't help much there) i am really enjoying one piece and naruto right now, the manga for both is availible in english.
my all time fave is slam dunk.
for what it's worth, (i'm not really into scifi so can't help much there) i am really enjoying one piece and naruto right now, the manga for both is availible in english.
my all time fave is slam dunk.
Commissario
Originally posted by hsp70
most of us in the uk are still hung back on anime that was out like 2 decades ago
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so true, probably at least partly because that was the first stuff a lot of us saw, or heard about
When i started buying, most of what i bought/wanted was stuff i'd seen years ago.
3x3 eyes (very enjoyable horror/comedy/with a hint of romance), dominion tank police, Detinator Orgun, Armitage 3, Appleseed, Akira, Laputa (castle in the sky) etc
The one i really really want to get some time soon is Macross though, as I've seen Macross Plus and loved it, seen Macross 7 (+ it's OVA's etc), and Macross Do you remember love, and really enjoyed all of them (and loved a lot of the music).
Actually, talking of old anime one I would strongly recommend is Gunbuster, although it annoys me that the only english version is still the Kiseki version (poor picture quality, translations that very in quality from episode to episode, and a totally uneccessary edit to get it a PG).
Manga keep saying they'll release it in America next year, and every year they don't, but again say "next year"
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Originally posted by Werewolf
The one i really really want to get some time soon is Macross though, as I've seen Macross Plus and loved it, seen Macross 7 (+ it's OVA's etc), and Macross Do you remember love, and really enjoyed all of them (and loved a lot of the music).
Actually, talking of old anime one I would strongly recommend is Gunbuster, although it annoys me that the only english version is still the Kiseki version (poor picture quality, translations that very in quality from episode to episode, and a totally uneccessary edit to get it a PG).
Manga keep saying they'll release it in America next year, and every year they don't, but again say "next year"
Macross is definitely one of my favorite Anime with the Macross Plus soundtrack being my most listened Anime soundtrack, even managed to get the Sharon Apple CD. At a cost. The new Macross Zero has some of the best animation i think i've ever seen, the transformation scene in episode 1 is awesome.
I was thinking about Gunbuster today, latest copy of Newtype(jap) has Gunbuster 2 on the back cover, i agree that this needs a re-release with someone doing it real justice. After all its Gainax.
Off to read Neo hope it's good, the UK scene needs a magazine of it's own.
Couple of snippets of news that people may have missed.
Hayao Miyazaki's Howl's Moving Castle has done rather well at the Japanese box office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4034865.stm
http://www.animenation.net/news/index.php?id=7181
James Cameron to make new version of Battle Angel.
http://www.animenation.net/news/index.php?id=7169
Although he's been talking about Battle Angel (Alita/Gunnm) for years.
Commissario
the Macross Plus soundtracks are great
They were the first anime OST's I picked up (Rightstuf* sometimes have bundles of OST's with damaged cases dirt cheap
)
I must get round to watching Macross Zero sometime, but unfortunately like most things Macross it probably won't get an official release outside Japan due to the legal problems with the original Macross licence.
From what i've heard the Macross rights are a complete mess, with several japanese companies claiming rights to everything derived from the original series, then you've got Harmony Gold who claim to have the licence to everything macross related outside Japan, including all the merchandise etc (and got their licence from one of the japanese companies).
The fun bit is, that if Harmony Gold do own the rights they claim to, then both the Macross II and Plus releases are illegal
I beleive HG have claimed they were not aware of the releases at the time they first came out, something I find very hard to beleive as Manga did a lot of advertising for the release.
It's great news to hear that Battle Angel is finally confrimed and presumably under way, as it's been rumoured for ages.
Maybe we'll even see the anime get rereleased (it's been oop for a while now).
Re Gundbuster, i'm in two minds about the new one, as I don't think it will be as good as the original, but even so, it's Gainax and that normally means pretty good.
One of the things i'm not so sure about are the character designs, but then i'm used to the original ones
Howls moving castle, sounds like it should be very good, but then it is Ghibli
It's also been confirmed that it will have an english dub, unlike Innocence which apparently won't be getting one at all (the guy in charge of it's release apparently is anti-dub, so despite the fact the franchise has had a lot of success dubbed won't be doing it for the second film**)
*they used to have the rights to M+, M2, and a number of other anime OST's and i think still have stock of them with damaged cases (the inserts and discs are fine).
**I'm hoping they will see sense at some point and do a release with a dub track included (the GITS:SAC is pretty darned good, and the original film dub wasn't bad for the time)
They were the first anime OST's I picked up (Rightstuf* sometimes have bundles of OST's with damaged cases dirt cheap
)I must get round to watching Macross Zero sometime, but unfortunately like most things Macross it probably won't get an official release outside Japan due to the legal problems with the original Macross licence.
From what i've heard the Macross rights are a complete mess, with several japanese companies claiming rights to everything derived from the original series, then you've got Harmony Gold who claim to have the licence to everything macross related outside Japan, including all the merchandise etc (and got their licence from one of the japanese companies).
The fun bit is, that if Harmony Gold do own the rights they claim to, then both the Macross II and Plus releases are illegal
I beleive HG have claimed they were not aware of the releases at the time they first came out, something I find very hard to beleive as Manga did a lot of advertising for the release.
It's great news to hear that Battle Angel is finally confrimed and presumably under way, as it's been rumoured for ages.
Maybe we'll even see the anime get rereleased (it's been oop for a while now).
Re Gundbuster, i'm in two minds about the new one, as I don't think it will be as good as the original, but even so, it's Gainax and that normally means pretty good.
One of the things i'm not so sure about are the character designs, but then i'm used to the original ones
Howls moving castle, sounds like it should be very good, but then it is Ghibli
It's also been confirmed that it will have an english dub, unlike Innocence which apparently won't be getting one at all (the guy in charge of it's release apparently is anti-dub, so despite the fact the franchise has had a lot of success dubbed won't be doing it for the second film**)
*they used to have the rights to M+, M2, and a number of other anime OST's and i think still have stock of them with damaged cases (the inserts and discs are fine).
**I'm hoping they will see sense at some point and do a release with a dub track included (the GITS:SAC is pretty darned good, and the original film dub wasn't bad for the time)
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Originally posted by Werewolf
The fun bit is, that if Harmony Gold do own the rights they claim to, then both the Macross II and Plus releases are illegal
I beleive HG have claimed they were not aware of the releases at the time they first came out, something I find very hard to beleive as Manga did a lot of advertising for the release.
Wasn't Macross+ part funded by Manga? if it was then that may be why HG/Carl Macek never had the rights.
Originally posted by Werewolf
Re Gunbuster, i'm in two minds about the new one, as I don't think it will be as good as the original, but even so, it's Gainax and that normally means pretty good.
One of the things i'm not so sure about are the character designs, but then i'm used to the original ones
I feel the same way about Gunbuster, i've sort of grown up with the characters as they are. I'm wondering how their going to do the last episode. Colour or black & white. Bet they don't have money problems.
Having not watched dubs for over a year, i still feel it's wrong not to release a dubbed version. I can't see GITS:Innocence being as popular without the dubs in place.Originally posted by Werewolf
Howls moving castle, sounds like it should be very good, but then it is Ghibli
It's also been confirmed that it will have an english dub, unlike Innocence which apparently won't be getting one at all (the guy in charge of it's release apparently is anti-dub, so despite the fact the franchise has had a lot of success dubbed won't be doing it for the second film**)
Just a heads up.
There has just been a 6 Disc DVD boxset of FOTNS released in the UK from MANGA Ent. Eps 1-36, and apparantley this is the first time eps 22-36 have been available in the UK.
6 full size DVDs in a slip case, a foldout poster in each.
Picked it up today cheap, had a quick flick through one of the discs, sems to be very nice video quality and there is both sub/dub audio tracks on the discs.
Also saw the UK Evangelion boxset as well . . .What a dissapointment looks absolute carp tbh. Much better off gettin the new R1 Eva Platinum discs. Plus the video quality on these looks amazing.
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Werewolf is it possible to have a link to Rightstuf* please ?
There has just been a 6 Disc DVD boxset of FOTNS released in the UK from MANGA Ent. Eps 1-36, and apparantley this is the first time eps 22-36 have been available in the UK.
6 full size DVDs in a slip case, a foldout poster in each.
Picked it up today cheap, had a quick flick through one of the discs, sems to be very nice video quality and there is both sub/dub audio tracks on the discs.
Also saw the UK Evangelion boxset as well . . .What a dissapointment looks absolute carp tbh. Much better off gettin the new R1 Eva Platinum discs. Plus the video quality on these looks amazing.
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Werewolf is it possible to have a link to Rightstuf* please ?
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I don't think that would make any difference.
HG have I beleive claimed they have a blanket solo licence for anything with the macross logo, name etc outside of Japan, and other companies cannot sell anything Macross related without their permission (basically claiming they have not only the rights to the original series, but the rights to all the derivatives).
They have sent out cease and desist letters to a number of toy retailers for example who were selling official Japanese models/toys.
It has however never gone to court as far as i'm aware though (unlike the Japanese companies where it's been in and out of court), so it's quite possible that either HG's claim is on dodgy ground or maybe even not valid at all.
The company HG got their licence from, has been in legal wrangles for years over the exact limits of what it's rights/licences are, and if it acted within the limits of it's agreement with the other Japanese companies involved in the original Macross project when it sold them (macrossworld has a massive thread on their forums covering the debate over it).
I was actually suprised that Animeigo managed to get HG to allow them to release the original series on DVD at all - then the "remastered" Robotech DVD's were announced and it all became clear
(let Animeigo pay to release Macross, and then use the masters they had spent ages cleaning up as the basis for the Robotech remastered release...)That's part of my feeling about it, GITS has a very large following not just of the traditional anime and foreign film fans, but amoung the general public at large (it's one of the most recognisable anime ever).
What Dreamworks are doing is treating it as a normal foreign film, totally ignoring it's much larger audience, it seems almost like they are shooting themselves in the foot with it.
Unless they plan on releasing the dubbed version at some point (seems unlikely).
Also if Innocence is anything like as visually based as the original film and TV series, then subs are going to (in my mind) detract from it compared to a well done dub, as it's pretty hard to keep track of fast moving action (or the small details) whilst reading the subs.
I feel at this point that I must say that I am a dub fan where the dubs are well done, so my reaction may be a bit coloured here.
My brother in law got that (he's not a major anime fan, but likes the odd bit), and it does look rather nice
I think the UK eva box is the first or second "proper" box that ADV-UK has done, and was in planning before the Platinum version was announced (their Hellsing set was in a rather tasty M-lock 4 way case).
If people can hang on, there is either the R1 Platinum release (up to disc 3 now), or in a few months we should be getting the Platinum release here as well.
As you say the video quality on the Platinum release is much much better (so much clearer, compare magma diver from the original release with the new one for example), as is the sound.
From what i've heard Gainax spent more on remastering the series than they originally spent on making it in the first place
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Originally posted by Werewolf
dubs aren't all bad, they've improved massively over the past 5-10 years
It is all down to personal taste in my opinion, but I do know what you mean there. If something is good though you should watch it in the original language, for that was the way it was meant to be watched.
What is the situation with regards to dvd's being released with the some of the audio/language tracks being corrupted (for the lack of another word)? I read somewhere that some films/series got released with the Japanese (at least I think it was) inoperable, the us platinum release of Evangelion springs to mind.
Sorry, my use of box set was incorrect, I did mean disc 1 + box as you correctly guessed.
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strictly speaking, if we were to be watching them as the creators intended we wouldn't be covering up (sometimes quite large) parts of the screen with text
Remember that even a sub makes compromises with the translation, especially when it comes to jokes that rely on you being aware of the context/background of it (puns and word play don't translate well without explanation at times)
Basically it's all a compromise when we watch anime, unless we know the language and culture
I tend to look at it the same way that I look at a play etc, there can be different actors playing the part and as long as the story isn't changed any more than is strictly neccessary to allow the audience to understand it then the original content/story can still be intact if the actors and direction is up to scratch(rather like different actors can play hamlet, and it can still be done in different languages with the story left intact).
I'm just happy that with DVD's there is zero excuse for a studio to not cater to all the audience for a normal release, unless the title is old enough that the materials aren't available to give it the nirmal options (Gunbuster for example hasn't got the music and effects track available which would make it harder and more expensive to do a dub track for it).
That is what annoys me about the proposed release of Innocence, there is no real reason not to cater for the whole potential audience. and you can bet it won't be cheaper than a "normal" release for not having a dub.
re the audio being corrupted on some dvd releases, it's normally due to mistakes in the mastering process rather than deliberate.
What is the problem in regards to the Eva platinum release you are referring to?
I ask because AFAIK it's meant to have the same Japanese audio as the R2 Japanese Platinum release, in addition to a 5.1 english dub (I've got the first 3 volumes of the R1 patinum release at home and haven't heard of any serious problems with the japanese track).
Most American Anime DVD releases have the original Japanese audio track as standard, although some kids releases and the rare butchered versions (Robotech etc) don't.
If a release has a dodgy audio track by mistake it's normally sorted out reasonably fast unless it's player specific.
apologies for typos etc, i'm puppysitting at a friends and he has a zboard with a gaming keyset installed (no idea where the normal ones is) and its a nightmare to use for typing
Remember that even a sub makes compromises with the translation, especially when it comes to jokes that rely on you being aware of the context/background of it (puns and word play don't translate well without explanation at times)
Basically it's all a compromise when we watch anime, unless we know the language and culture
I tend to look at it the same way that I look at a play etc, there can be different actors playing the part and as long as the story isn't changed any more than is strictly neccessary to allow the audience to understand it then the original content/story can still be intact if the actors and direction is up to scratch(rather like different actors can play hamlet, and it can still be done in different languages with the story left intact).
I'm just happy that with DVD's there is zero excuse for a studio to not cater to all the audience for a normal release, unless the title is old enough that the materials aren't available to give it the nirmal options (Gunbuster for example hasn't got the music and effects track available which would make it harder and more expensive to do a dub track for it).
That is what annoys me about the proposed release of Innocence, there is no real reason not to cater for the whole potential audience. and you can bet it won't be cheaper than a "normal" release for not having a dub.
re the audio being corrupted on some dvd releases, it's normally due to mistakes in the mastering process rather than deliberate.
What is the problem in regards to the Eva platinum release you are referring to?
I ask because AFAIK it's meant to have the same Japanese audio as the R2 Japanese Platinum release, in addition to a 5.1 english dub (I've got the first 3 volumes of the R1 patinum release at home and haven't heard of any serious problems with the japanese track).
Most American Anime DVD releases have the original Japanese audio track as standard, although some kids releases and the rare butchered versions (Robotech etc) don't.
If a release has a dodgy audio track by mistake it's normally sorted out reasonably fast unless it's player specific.
apologies for typos etc, i'm puppysitting at a friends and he has a zboard with a gaming keyset installed (no idea where the normal ones is) and its a nightmare to use for typing
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Originally posted by Werewolf
when it comes to jokes that rely on you being aware of the context/background of it (puns and word play don't translate well without explanation at times)
As an ex English literature student I know exactly what you mean there, I shudder when I think of Chaucer (not the modern translation). At the end of the day though it is all down to taste. You can not have a foreign language film running in the background (hence a good use for the English audio), but at the same time dubbing unless done well can destroy a film and has done so for me in the past. There are also time when the voice acting in the original is so good, when you watch it dubbed it does not convey the same emotion as the original.
As far as Eva goes, it was only something that I read somewhere, I am probably wrong or maybe it was a limited problem. I shall be waiting for them to be released in the uk though. Not sure about the other stuff I am looking for at the moment though, Never imported for the states before so that makes me a bit nervous.
Sounds like more fun than I ham having at the moment, sitting in an office answering the phone and waiting for that 5.25pm, hour long support call that will come in as it will being Friday.
Fires up word, copies, pastes, spell checks and pastes back again minus copies spelling mistakes.
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karbon, get it from play.com, they have disc 2 for £9 (they did have most of the series for £9 a disc, but it looks like the offer is over for now)
I loved FMP, especially the comedy moments and the second season (should be out next year i beleive*), is even funnier as it's basically all comedy episodes.
I think there is going to be a third season as well.
*I beleive ADV announced the licence for the US and UK, and logically it would be released some time next year as I beleive the first series did pretty well.
)I loved FMP, especially the comedy moments and the second season (should be out next year i beleive*), is even funnier as it's basically all comedy episodes.
I think there is going to be a third season as well.
*I beleive ADV announced the licence for the US and UK, and logically it would be released some time next year as I beleive the first series did pretty well.
Originally posted by Werewolf
karbon, get it from play.com, they have disc 2 for £9 (they did have most of the series for £9 a disc, but it looks like the offer is over for now
thanks for that, ordered 2 and 3 now, should get them on monday i suppose.
Commissario
monday or tuesday
normally i would say monday but it's christmas
Whilst I remember, what did you think of the piracy warning on FMP?
I found they sort of got my attention better than the normal black with red text ones, and a couple were actually reasonably funny (there is a different one on each disc, I think the same as on the Japanese releases but in english).
it's worth keeping an eye on Play.com as they do deals on ADV and Manga titles every few months (the adv deal that ended in the past couple of weeks had most of Noir, FMP, Gasaraki, BGC 2040, Eva and most of ADV's other titles up to about July/August for £9 each)
I'm waiting for January when hopefully they will have the sale on again and include Rahxephon as i've really enjoyed that so far but don't want to spend another £60 on completing the series quite yet
Oh and if anyone is interested (i can't remember if i posted it already), www.dvdpacific.com are apparently doing the Gasaraki 8 DVD box set for about £17-18 + delivery (probably about another £4-5 for the slow option), which is a great price for the set.
Although it may not be to everyones tastes.
normally i would say monday but it's christmas
Whilst I remember, what did you think of the piracy warning on FMP?
I found they sort of got my attention better than the normal black with red text ones, and a couple were actually reasonably funny (there is a different one on each disc, I think the same as on the Japanese releases but in english).
it's worth keeping an eye on Play.com as they do deals on ADV and Manga titles every few months (the adv deal that ended in the past couple of weeks had most of Noir, FMP, Gasaraki, BGC 2040, Eva and most of ADV's other titles up to about July/August for £9 each)
I'm waiting for January when hopefully they will have the sale on again and include Rahxephon as i've really enjoyed that so far but don't want to spend another £60 on completing the series quite yet
Oh and if anyone is interested (i can't remember if i posted it already), www.dvdpacific.com are apparently doing the Gasaraki 8 DVD box set for about £17-18 + delivery (probably about another £4-5 for the slow option), which is a great price for the set.
Although it may not be to everyones tastes.
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