Why would i doubt carbon?
Any religious people watch the Wonders of Life last night?
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Some atheists claim that there is absolutely no such thing as a God, people like Prof Richard Dawkins (isn't he britains leading atheist?) Dawkins misotheism is clearly seen and understood, he often comes over as a secular bigot, he knows that pure atheism is a position of ignorance and that is why he waves the banner of evolution over his camp.
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But don't you find that brings god down to a human level rather than a perfect being, he's carrying out a scorched earth policy so that he can have his own way. If pro-lifers consider abortion infanticide, surely so is this, regardless of his motive he is still killing children not to mention many other people who have no control over the slavery of Moses' people. I know man has and does carry this out but I don't put us on a pedestal of perfection and morality.
Sorry a quick edit forgot to raise this point too.
You do undertstand that the Theory of Evolution doesn't concern how life started but how it diversified. Also the beauty of science is we don't understand everything and it can be changed as more evidence comes to light. We haven't got as far as how DNA occurs naturally but we've shown that early atmospheric conditions could produce amino acids, we don't know for certain how the universe came to being but we have shown how 3 of the forces come from the same source and how simple hydrogen atoms can become more complex. Yes there are gaps in our knowledge and what we know now may have to be altered but there would be a lot more gaps if we wrote everything we didn't understand as "god did it" and we'll never know more if we go back to that way of thinking.
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You should have a lot of evidence to prove this then, no?. You will never observe natural selection or mutations evolve one species into another of a higher order, this type of evolution is outside of the scientific method, evolution is assumed to have happened there is no real scientific method of observation that supports this.IGod tried and failed to make them perfect. In which case, he's not evil, just incompetent.
The irony being that the only reason we are "human beings" is because of millions of years of mutations
God causes to become, he is the rightfull ruler imho. God looked out for his people, Pharaoh brought on his own demise and of those around him.
I see once again you bring nothing to the table
It does seem to be somewhat accruate though when followed by this;
Most of these tv programes about evolution of life is propaganda propounded by evolution central, they rule higher education and media services like television, evolution has been drummed into the public Consciousness for decades, evolutionists are not interested in the truth it's just secular humanism that wants to do away with God and religion.
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It is impossible to debate with a religious person, as their belief is made up entirely to begin with and have no other evidence to draw against, except the book itself - which has not been proven to be a valid source.
If someone tries to hold a debate citing evidence from the book they are too delusional to converse with at all rendering any debate meaningless.
No new evidence can be brought to the table only an interpretation to a book which could be a thousands years old..
If someone tries to hold a debate citing evidence from the book they are too delusional to converse with at all rendering any debate meaningless.
No new evidence can be brought to the table only an interpretation to a book which could be a thousands years old..
Ok I'm back from shopping. Why would a big sainsbury's not stock the big 10kg bags of rice? -_-
Well, that's a question I cannot really answer off the top of my head in much detail. All I can say is the majority of denominations are created due to people letting their own convictions getting in the way of the truth and people being led astray.
There's only a few denominations I personally think are completely wrong and misleading but that's offtopic so I won't go further. There exist saved people in all denominations though.
It works both ways seeing as an Atheist can't disprove God either. I'm not here though to persuade you, I'm content on answering questions as long as you actually want to know instead of argue(Not aimed at you but the thread).
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Yup. It's all a conspiracy from the entire scientific community, and that's been going on for two hundred years.
Absolutely. So science shouldn't even bother. It's hopeless. They will NEVER ever know. I actually find it rather offensive that they try. How dare they? We already know!
It's called argument from ignorance, and argument from incredulity.
I'll speel it out for you :
"We don't know, therefore God did it".
"We can't possibly know, therefore God did it".
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Kedge we've dredged you through this in speakers corner already.
What you mean to say is, our current theory of xyz doesn't make 100% sense. But at the same time we know for 100% that genesis as prescribed in the bible is wholly in accurate as well.
Therefore by undermining current theories does not add any credibility to the Bible as that has already been completely discredited. So we know that our current laws don't describe the beginning and neither does the bible. Hence people are still researching this.
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The theory of god only eminates from the bible/ot. As the bible is not considered accurate or in any way resembling the real history of earth, tell me what is there to disprove as nothing had been proven to begin with.
If you accept the bible as proof then your thinking is already flawed because it has no source or substance. Therefore to even try to use the Bible in a debate is erroneous to begin with.
How do we know that?
That is crazy. It's wrong to teach religion in schools past basic knowledge and understanding.
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Sorry to get personal again but can I ask about your back as in your denomination? Do you believe in taking the bible literally? Is god omnipotentent, omniscient and benevolant? and what got you into your religion?
Fair enough you don't fell comfortable discussing this. I'm just asking as it get confusing debating these matters when theists can have so many different interpretations. The reason I ask is unless I was brought up in a strict religous household I can't see how I'd be attracted to follow a god as you describe. That to me seems like human behaviour (tyrannical behaiviour at that, he's the boss if you don't do it his way he'll hurt you or those you love). It doesn't seem to give me answers about how and why the world is the way it is beyond "god did it".
I can see the attraction in a religion that promotes looking after one another, but I fail too see why I should follow a god if he does not follow that himself.
That's why evolutionists have had many false claims debunked. Piltdown Man is one example. They deliberately attached the jaw of an orangutang to a human skull. That's deception.
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Yes but as far as I'm aware it wasn't disproved by creationists but by other scientists. Thats the beauty of the scientific process mistakes and frauds are made but aslong as everyone does there job the peer review process should catch them out. Doesn't the varying species in the fossil record show that literal creationism is false in as far as all life was created in a single day?
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Err.. carbon dating? The fossil record etc
I'll reply to you even though you're just being an ass.
It's not a literal snake in the Bible. It has legs and it's hinted that Eve had sex or did something sexual with it.
It wasn't an apple that they ate from the Tree of Knowledge. That's how ignorant of the actual story you are.
That doesn't disprove God in any way. God tells Adam and Eve to replenish the earth, there WAS something here before us.
As I said in an earlier post, I think Genesis has time skips that aren't mentioned. IMO it's Creation [Timeskip] Garden & Adam [Timeskip] Eve.
I'll never understand why people think it has to be Science Vs God. It's just stupidity, if you don't want to believe in God then don't, it doesn't make a difference to me or anyone else.
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