Bahrain GP 2009 - Race 4/17

sunama said:
With regards to bravery and excitement - I dont think anyone beats Mansell.
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Once again, something we agree on. We're going to have to stop doing this ;)

Lopéz said:
For me, although I'm chuffed Hamilton and Button have had recent success, there has been nobody to beat our Nige. It's all about championing the underdog, the fighter - that 1992 Monaco GP was just mental...
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There will never be another one like Il Leone. To be loved by the English is one thing. To be loved by the tifosi even long after he left Ferrari....

Mansell was the reason I supported Ferrari when I started watching F1 properly. It's a shame they could never give him a car that could challenge for the title, but I guess all those years of him either nearly making it or being forced to compete in equipment that just wasn't up to the task made 1992 all the more sweet. I can still remember the '92 British GP and Murray's commentary as Mansell rounded the last couple of bends. In fact, I can remember rather more about the '92 season than I can of 2007 and 2008. Shows just how good the racing was even with the ultra-dominant Williams I guess.

If I could pick two races that sum up Mansell for me, it'd be the '87 British GP and the '89 Hungarian race. '87 saw him have to claw back nearly half a minute in 28 laps on his team-mate (Piquet, still at the top of his game at that stage of his career and a bloody good driver) after having to make an unscheduled stop. He caught Piquet by lap 58, and then performed the Silverstone Two-Step on him going into Stowe on the next lap. He blew by Piquet, and pulled out nearly two seconds on him despite the fuel gauge reading empty for the final two laps of the race. '89 Hungary was similarly epic - starting 12th after a difficult qualifying session, he scythed his way up the order before getting by Senna and simply driving away from everyone. He ended up about 25sec ahead by the end IIRC.

He may have put us through the wringer on far too many occasions, and he may have been a bit of a moaner with a persecution complex, but he was never dull. That's something that a few of the current crop could learn from.
 
Summing up Mansell for me would have nothing to do with F1, his exploits in the Mondeo in BTCC say it all. One of the most emtertaining drivers ever.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Bernie says Brawn won't get the Honda prize money...

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=37771

That could be a good thing because the orignal thinking was they would get the honda money but then get none of the prize money for 09.

I reckon they will earn far more from this year than they are going to be giving up.
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But isnt there something about Brawn having to wait a reasonably long period before getting the prize money for 09? (ie an extra year or something?)

edit - like Bernie really wants to give £20m away when he can keep it himself (it may be small pittance but its still £20m) - and he is a bit naive if he thinks Mercedes would be happy with Brawn being called Honda, I cant see how the Germans would have happily made their engine available with the Honda name attached to the team.
 
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elmuzzy66. said:
Yea it should go for honda. People forget that they spent last year building this car and that it was their 300 million that made brawn a sucsess.
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The money has nothing to do with Brawn though.

The £20mil is Honda's (as in that Japanese company...) for their efforts in coming 9th in the constructors championship in the 2008 season.

I don't see why Honda aren't demanding this money. It is rightfully theirs!
 
lol @ bernie saying brawns not a good name it means nothing to the public.

most people who follow f1 know who brawn is and i'd imagine most people in england prefer having a proper english team instead of having a honda team that isnt actually owned by honda.


would brawn even get any winnings this year? i thought you had to be in f1 for X ammount of seasons to be eligible?
 
so given that Bernie probably doesnt have to pay Honda back the £20m, I dont see why its so atrocious for Brawn to be given that money (as they are obviously VERY limited in their budget) even if its as a loan to be repaid when the winnings are eventually paid - its not like they arent owed it or something

(doesnt surprise me that the ****wit that is FB is being awkward)
 
FrankJH said:
so given that Bernie probably doesnt have to pay Honda back the £20m, I dont see why its so atrocious for Brawn to be given that money (as they are obviously VERY limited in their budget) even if its as a loan to be repaid when the winnings are eventually paid - its not like they arent owed it or something

(doesnt surprise me that the ****wit that is FB is being awkward)
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Well the rules require all the teams to OK it. So with Flav saying no Brawn simply can't get the £20m. Stupid rule really. Should be changed so that if a team changes name but is physically the same team a la Brawn they are eligible for the team's prize money owed. A new team like Stewart GP was obviously can't.
 
Yes there are lots of articles doing the rounds that the FIA are targetting ferrari heavily right now and are the next team to be brought into line.

People won't care about that though as it doesn't fit the constant international assistance joke, which is about as funny as the ice cream one that will get posted all year in every single race thread :D
 
Was reading this story on teletext (yes it still exists) the other night while watching Total Recall. I was quite supprised if im honest and also stunned by how much a power a crazed Ronnie Cox looks like "Mad" Max Mosley when he is on a mission.
 
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