BARGAIN - OcUK 24" with DVI (*VA Panel) for £179.99+VAT (This Week Only Deal!!)

Barba Gann · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:25

Damonic said:
Samsung.

Faster response time. 2ms
Higher Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
16.7M Colours
1:1 mapping
2" smaller.
TN panel

OcUK
16.7 Million Colours yet 2" bigger than the Samsung.
Lower Contrast ratio.
Crap built in stereo speakers.
higher response time.
Does not have 1:1 mapping
some "unknown" VA panel.

This just taken from OcUK site in a few minutes. Now you want more detailed info ask Baddass if he would like to contribute (As I said he is well known around these forums for information on this sort of thing). Samsung has a lot of there own great technology included in there monitors that the OcUK does NOT. I dont see the point researching this myself just to prove a point when you can do it yourself.

If you really think the OcUK is a far superior monitor than the Samsung then all the power to you.

I belive the Samsung monitor was also the most saught after monitor on OcUK and most of Europe. It is great for a reason. It looks better than this OcUK monitor too.

Baddass could you find time and kindly contribute regarding this debate. Me and IceTea it seems are still divided regarding the OcUK 24" and Pebble 2232W Sammy. Please refer to my previous post regarding this too. Let's not let this become a I own THIS lcd therefore THIS is better and vice-versa. That's why we need an unbiased informed decision.

For myself: I need an LCD to play games mainly and watch dvds and browse - I love the 24" size and will be looking at the monitor slightly below its centre point since I lean back on my swivel chair. Please help me decide which one is my best bet since I don't have the luxury of seeing them both near each other and comparing.

Cavallino · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:27

james.miller said:
you forgot the full stop

So did you!

Ice Tea · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:27

I'm not going to get involved with monitor bashing as i don't own either to comment and i appreciate comments and opinions from both sides ( i'm not taking sides Damonic ) but i'm reading some very negative comments around the web on the samsung pebble with light bleed and monitor Hum.

Example at OCUk

"When I reduce the brightness below 85% it hums"

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17803191

pumaz · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:29

Does Baddass have this monitor?

If he doesn't then how can he review or give his opinion? Although i do agree Baddass would be the best person to give an opinion.

Raikiri · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:30

Damonic said:
Samsung.

Faster response time. 2ms
Higher Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
16.7M Colours
1:1 mapping
2" smaller.
TN panel

OcUK
16.7 Million Colours yet 2" bigger than the Samsung.
Lower Contrast ratio.
Crap built in stereo speakers.
higher response time.
Does not have 1:1 mapping
some "unknown" VA panel.

Response time makes no difference if you can't see ghosting with either of them.

Contrast ratio - Samsung like to 'exaggerate' their figures.

Crap speakers are better than no speakers.

1:1 mapping is fairly useful, bit pointless having a larger screen though and not using it.

The unknown part is only whether it's the one used in the Dell 2407 or the BenQ 24", both of which are considered to be better than the Samsung.

Richdog · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:30

Damonic said:
Samsung.

Faster response time. 2ms
Higher Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
16.7M Colours
1:1 mapping
2" smaller.
TN panel

OcUK
16.7 Million Colours yet 2" bigger than the Samsung.
Lower Contrast ratio.
Crap built in stereo speakers.
higher response time.
Does not have 1:1 mapping
some "unknown" VA panel.

This just taken from OcUK site in a few minutes. Now you want more detailed info ask Baddass if he would like to contribute (As I said he is well known around these forums for information on this sort of thing). Samsung has a lot of there own great technology included in there monitors that the OcUK does NOT. I dont see the point researching this myself just to prove a point when you can do it yourself.

If you really think the OcUK is a far superior monitor than the Samsung then all the power to you.

I belive the Samsung monitor was also the most saught after monitor on OcUK and most of Europe. It is great for a reason. It looks better than this OcUK monitor too.

I'm sorry, but are you ACTUALLY that uninformed as to genuinely think a 22" TN panel is better than a high-quality 24" PVA panel, despite the fact that PVA panels generally cost 2x more than TN panels and offer much better colour reproduction and viewing angles? I'm almost lost for words...

.Lethal · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:33

Ice Tea said:
I'm not going to get involved with monitor bashing as i don't own either to comment and i appreciate comments and opinions from both sides ( i'm not taking sides Damonic ) but i'm reading some very negative comments around the web on the samsung pebble with light bleed and monitor Hum.

Example at OCUk

"When I reduce the brightness below 85% it hums"

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17803191

I have the 226BW I cant comment on the pebble

.Lethal · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:36

Raikiri said:
Response time makes no difference if you can't see ghosting with either of them.

Contrast ratio - Samsung like to 'exaggerate' their figures.

Crap speakers are better than no speakers.

1:1 mapping is fairly useful, bit pointless having a larger screen though and not using it.

The unknown part is only whether it's the one used in the Dell 2407 or the BenQ 24", both of which are considered to be better than the Samsung.

The fact is the response time on the Samsung still is lower is the point I was making. I was not saying you can see ghosting on the OcUK was I? You are picking at pieces here and there that you personally do not approve on yet I am going on some of the facts.

Contrast ratio. Yes you are right in fact it is around 900 not 3000 and it also varies on the 226BW depending on the Panel (there is S, A and something else). Not just samsung exaggerate the contrast ratio, ALL do.

Crap speakers better than none? Your choice, I wouldnt use crap built in stereo speakers like most people dont use built in gfx cards on some motherboards, they use better components.

james.miller · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:39

Damonic said:
*Not directed to Gibbo* Like I said only argument you can make is that it is 2" bigger. You keep going on about the fact is can play 1080p without the picture being compressed due to the resolution, the resolution is 30% bigger than the samsung resolution, it is 2" bigger... thats all the same thing which I have not said is a bad thing, it is great. All I have done is comment on how everything else the OcUK is not better than the Samsung. Oh and the fact the OcUK is a random VA panel (for now at least as this isn't even confirmed) so the viewing angles are better than a TN. THAT IS IT NOTHING MORE.

Care to drag this out more?

are you selectively ignoring me? i've given a whole list for you and you've ignored it.

In conclusion the OcUK is a VA panel for now. 2" bigger. WOW it is clearly better than the 22" Samsung. That is your ONLY valid argument. Which I have never denied regarding the 2" extra size over the Samsung.

2" diagonal is better. its quite a bit better actually. see, you are dismissing this because you own a 22". i already told you i've come from a 22" and the difference is pretty damn noticeable. http://tvcalculator.com/index.html?800916b7019763c97b4ef02429c234cb

Congratulations on owning a 40" Sony TV, plasma I assume which is a totally different subject.

no, a 40" 1080p LCD. 40w2000 if you want to take a look.

.Lethal · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:41

Richdog said:
I'm sorry, but are you ACTUALLY that uninformed as to genuinely think a 22" TN panel is better than a high-quality 24" PVA panel, despite the fact that PVA panels generally cost 2x more than TN panels and offer much better colour reproduction and viewing angles? I'm almost lost for words...

You have not been paying attention to what I have been saying.

The person I originally replied to was choosing over a Samsung and this OcUK for gaming. I said the samsung as it has lower response time and various other features that the OcUK does not. The VA (it is not a PVA as that is not confirmed) is better than TN for viewing angles and some other specific features. the cost of the OcUK is also great. I prefer the Samsung for my needs. I would still purchase the Samsung given the choice of this and the OcUK one now.

.Lethal · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:43

james.miller you are still going on about the size of the monitor. I have never argued about this I have gone on about other aspects but you continue to go over the one thing that the OcUK is better for, which for god knows how many times I DO NOT DENY.

If I belive one thing is better than the other and I own the lesser item I am the first to admit, I not a fanboy of the products I am at all. you are just speculating now that because I own a 22" monitor it has to be better than a 24". That is not the case. The 24" dell on the other hand is better than my 22" samsung and i WOULD choose that over my monitor. I would not choose the OcUK over mine though.

james.miller · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:46

Damonic said:
james.miller you are still going on about the size of the monitor. I have never argued about this I have gone on about other aspects but you continue to go over the one thing that the OcUK is better for, which for god knows how many times I DO NOT DENY.

james.miller said:
what?? i asked you to explain how the samsung was better - you cant. ill explain why the dsg is better:

* 2 inches bigger
* 30% more screen area (1920x1200 vs 1680x1050)
* smaller dot pitch (8900p/sq.in vs 8107p/sq.in) meaning a sharper, cleaner picture
* va panel meaning
*---better color reproduction
*---better viewing angles
*---better contrast ratio
*---better black levels

the samsung, on the other hand, has a better stand what else does it have?

is that me going on about one thing? are you still ignoring me?

If I belive one thing is better than the other and I own the lesser item I am the first to admit, I not a fanboy of the products I am at all. you are just speculating now that because I own a 22" monitor it has to be better than a 24". That is not the case. The 24" dell on the other hand is better than my 22" samsung and i WOULD choose that over my monitor. I would not choose the OcUK over mine though.

how?? the dgm is better than my friends 2405. one of the guys here confirmed the colors are better than his 2405, but there you are saying the dell is better but this panel is not.

madness, i cant be bothered any more.

Sin_Chase · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:47

Gibbo, This Week Only... please

jmhduck · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:48

jmhduck said:
hmm I am getting a strange problem, If I turn the monitor off/on it says no signal although if I take cable out and put back in its fine (and yes I have tryed making sure both ends are in firmly), I'm using DVI with x800gt, I will try on a different gfx, although any other ideas would be appreciated. I'm trying to find out if the dvi output on gfx is borked or monitor is not picking up the output correctly (if that makes sense).

Also happens if I switch inputs on the monitor when I go back to DVI their is no signal

toothe · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:50

damonic why is that?

Cavallino · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:50

Too much whining. Need lesser pricing!

Festive Crimbo tunes!

.Lethal · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:52

james.miller said:
madness, i cant be bothered any more.

Ditto.

Sin_Chase · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:53

Cavallino said:
Too much whining. Need lesser pricing!
Festive Crimbo tunes!

On the last week of November Gibbo gave to us,
1 This week only
2 Long of a wait
And a bargain of a VA screen.

*sings* :X

westie17 · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:54

So if i bought this i could use the PC with VGA and a X360 with DVI, as my Gfx card does'nt support DVI.

Does anyone think that the other 24" monitors would come down in price much after Xmas?

Raikiri · 28 Nov 2007 at 11:54

Damonic said:
The fact is the response time on the Samsung still is lower is the point I was making. I was not saying you can see ghosting on the OcUK was I? You are picking at pieces here and there that you personally do not approve on yet I am going on some of the facts.

It's been tested as being the same as the 5ms panels, so it's a whole 1ms faster.

Damonic said:
Contrast ratio. Yes you are right in fact it is around 900 not 3000 and it also varies on the 226BW depending on the Panel (there is S, A and something else). Not just samsung exaggerate the contrast ratio, ALL do.

Yes, but Samsung more so. Seeing as the given static contrast for the Samsung is, as you said around 900:1 and the OcUK is 1000:1.

Damonic said:
Crap speakers better than none? Your choice, I wouldnt use crap built in stereo speakers like most people dont use built in gfx cards on some motherboards, they use better components.

I don't use crap built in speakers, but I would if I didn't have anything else.

Crap graphics are better than none as well.