Batman™: Arkham Knight Performance

[Final8y]

Getting Rid of GameWorks

If you disable Gameworks in all these titles does performance increase dramatically?

With the GameWorks features disabled the GeForce GTX 980 Ti was 21% faster at 1080p and the Radeon R9 390X became 18% faster. Lower end GPUs such as the Radeon R9 280X picked up some much needed extra performance as well rendering 5fps more when comparing the minimums and 8fps more on average.

Now at 1440p the GTX 980 Ti was around 16% faster with GameWorks disabled while the Radeon R9 390X picked up 23% more performance. The R9 280X also performed a lot better with a 25% higher minimum frame rate and a 20% higher average frame rate.

Now at 4K the minimum frame rate of the GeForce GTX 980 Ti was 26% higher with GameWorks disabled allowing it so stay well above 30fps.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1022-batman-arkham-knight-benchmarks/page6.html

 

[Ayahuasca]

With games like Project Cars you can clearly see a nVidia bias but with this Batman I'm leaving all the blames with the devs, you can turn off all gameworks effects and the game still performs poorly for users on both sides.

 

[Final8y]

Nvidia do not make games. Nvidia will work closely with dev's to incorporate GW/Effects in games.

AMD work with devs ? you have got to be kidding me. Show me 1 or 2 articles where dev's have said that AMD have assisted in helping them devlop AMD's technology into games.

Alien: Isolation, Tomb raider.

 

[LambChop]

Alien: Isolation, Tomb raider.

Show me, not tell me.

 

[LambChop]

http://www.techspot.com/review/1022-batman-arkham-knight-benchmarks/page6.html

I'm confused, isnt that how its supposed to work ?

Or do you expect to get effects in games with no performance hit ? As for AMD's improvement, its an Nvidia program, disable it, its not yours to use anyway.

 

[shankly1985]

AMD and Creative Assembly Collaborate to Deliver the Ultimate “Alien: Isolation™” Experience

Show me, not tell me.

“The AMD Gaming Evolved program is committed to making games look great and run well for all PC gamers,” said Ritche Corpus, director of ISV Gaming and Alliances, AMD. “By working with truly talented developers like Creative Assembly, we deliver on that commitment with fun and beautiful games like ‘Alien: Isolation,‘ which give PC gamers the high-end technology they deserve.”

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-and-creative-2014aug23.aspx

Bah , Bah , Bah

 

[oldestgregg]

Just watched a good video that made the point its now better to pre order games through steam instead of waiting to see how they turn out. Steam still keep their share of the sale so its cost WB millions to release a broken game and pay out refunds.

 

[Ayahuasca]

No thanks, steam already milk it with their ridiculous launch pricing. I won't be helping them profit further because devs are too lazy.

 

[Final8y]

Show me, not tell me.

The developer video was even posted in this forum even AMDMatt comment on the that fact, TressFX was in collaboration with Crystal Dynamics, whether you believe me or not i could not care less and on top of that its besides the point because the point was that clearly NVs involvement is not helping to insure that the game runs well on the PC

 

[barrylindon]

BF4, GTAV (and dont believe the ****e they tell you when AMD say its not their game)

BF4 yes, but gta 5? you are reaching. And even BF4 doesn't come close to the disaster of Watchdogs which by the way is still not smooth after all the paching and Batman, game that have to be retired, damn I don't even remember the last time a game had to be retired, ET for atari

 

[Final8y]

I'm confused, isnt that how its supposed to work ?

Or do you expect to get effects in games with no performance hit ? As for AMD's improvement, its an Nvidia program, disable it, its not yours to use anyway.

Try to follow the context.

If you disable Gameworks in all these titles does performance increase dramatically?

lol, of course not. The only real exception being HairWorks because of the tessellation performance being better on Maxwell. You can't add these various shaders and expect the performance to remain the same every time. Batman won't maintain a steady framerate with or without the effects enabled.

Clearly some thought there would be no dramatic change which is not the case.
If you keep displaying the inability to follow i will simply ignore your questions as you are just wasting time .

 

[Nexus18]

GTA 5 is an AMD game

Last time I checked, there were nvidia game options in gta 5.... not to mention, there are no AMD or nvidia logos at the start up of the game like every other "sponsored" AMD/nvidia title....

Also, GTA 5 ran amazingly well on launch day and still does for both amd and nvidia users.

 

[shankly1985]

GTA 5 is an AMD game

Last time I checked, there were nvidia game options in gta 5.... not to mention, there are no AMD or nvidia logos at the start up of the game like every other "sponsored" AMD/nvidia title....

Also, GTA 5 ran amazingly well on launch day and still does for both amd and nvidia users.

Its 50/50 Rockstar worked with both AMD and Nvidia.

 

[Final8y]

Its 50/50 Rockstar worked with both AMD and Nvidia.

Indeed no exclusive sponsorship.

 

[Nexus18]

Exactly and just the way it should be, none of this favouring a certain side ********.

 

[Final8y]

Exactly and just the way it should be, none of this favouring a certain side ********.

 

[barrylindon]

Indeed no exclusive sponsorship.

Exactly and that game is how a port should be handled.

Amd sponsored games are

Alien Isolation( one of the best optimized games I have seen)
Crysis 3( demanding but optimised)
Dirt Rally( works really well)
Civilization 5(works really well also)

Maybe AMD didn't do the work but at least those games work really well with any brand of graphic card.

 

[shankly1985]

Exactly and just the way it should be, none of this favouring a certain side ********.

Yes.. 100% agree!

They needs to be a new standard that all PC games should follow that all gamers can enjoy..

You get people say but PhysX etc sells Nvidia GPUs.. But if we just forget about this for a second and have this become one standard fits all...

Gameworks, Anything AMD - Freesync/Gsync these should be for everyone.

GPU manufactures should just be left to build great competitive GPUs and Drivers and let user buy based on performance/Price to fit there needs..

Thats what I would like from an ideal PC gaming platform, and its one of the reason I will not buy from Nvidia because I dont agree with there strategies. I much like how AMD approach the industry.

Nvidia fans dont flame!

 

[Final8y]

Exactly and that game is how a port should be handled.

Amd sponsored games are

Alien Isolation( one of the best optimized games I have seen)
Crysis 3( demanding but optimised)
Dirt Rally( works really well)
Civilization 5(works really well also)

Maybe AMD didn't do the work but at least those games work really well with any brand of graphic card.

There is quite a long list and the majority are well optimised for whatever reason.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Try to follow the context.





Clearly some thought there would be no dramatic change which is not the case.
If you keep displaying the inability to follow i will simply ignore your questions as you are just wasting time .

I don't recall asking you any questions, probably because you have nothing to add other than to quote Techspot. The only thing that disabling GW does in Batman is balance an already broken game to maintain even a steady 30 frames per second. You are getting needlessly angry, don't fall to being a stereotype if you cannot follow the simple fact that Batman suffers issues with middleware optimistion with or without GW.

There is quite a long list and the majority are well optimised for whatever reason.

Now care to list the AMD technologies that are shader specific present in those games.