Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Washout · 12 Jul 2015 at 17:21

Marsman said:
So, Snyder and co. decided that MoS was going to be Kryptonite free because Kal-El had other super powered beings to have a huge punch up with, so no need to mention the old green macguffin at all. Forward to BvS, and the macguffin is rather conveniently wheeled out again just so they can have Batman fight him, and use the title Batman V Superman. *sigh*

They should have gone with Kryptonite V Superman: Dawn of Convenience.

Why is that a big deal? Whether it's kryptonite or something else there needs to be a way for them to face off without it being over in half a second.

Gerard said:
Why are they making it look as if superman is exerting some sort of effort in some scenes? The one that sticks out in the trailer is the one where he's lowering the part of the rocket, if you look at his face its if he's under some kind of strain. Not quite as bad as man of steel and the screaming part at the oil rig but still....in other movie's he's moved the moon and an island of kryptonite, but a rocket section and an oil derrick is strenuous now?

But this isn't a sequel to the other movies, it's a reboot.

FutileBreadMachine · 12 Jul 2015 at 17:50

Gerard said:
Why are they making it look as if superman is exerting some sort of effort in some scenes? The one that sticks out in the trailer is the one where he's lowering the part of the rocket, if you look at his face its if he's under some kind of strain. Not quite as bad as man of steel and the screaming part at the oil rig but still....in other movie's he's moved the moon and an island of kryptonite, but a rocket section and an oil derrick is strenuous now?

The Man of Steel movies are not connected to any previous Superman films. Are you going to complain when he doesn't fly around the world to make time reverse?

They made him weaker in these so he is more relatable I guess, and maybe so the fight with Batman would be more palatable.

No1newts · 12 Jul 2015 at 18:17

I was critical of this early but that trailer looks good.

aardvark · 12 Jul 2015 at 18:56

the trailer looks pretty good, but then zack makes good looking but ultimately shallow things - i'll still watch it though

Steampunk · 12 Jul 2015 at 22:14

D3K said:
This movie is looking more and more garbage with every trailer.

Batman goes iron man to take on superman. : sigh:

Again, this is as per DKR, which is being used as a playbook for the new movie. Some of the most important bits of the comic were Batman taking on Superman... which he did in an armoured bat suit.

Somnambulist · 13 Jul 2015 at 08:03

And the aid of a kryptonite arrow.

PlacidCasual · 13 Jul 2015 at 08:06

I watched the new trailer last night and it seemed like Bruce Wayne becomes Batman because of a Superman incident. I'm not sure I like that one bit. Must re-check trailer.

Edit: unless his employees are his family. Still not sure.

Smeghead · 13 Jul 2015 at 08:34

The trailer looks pretty decent, but I really don't have much faith in Snyder. He's almost like Michael Bay - all style, no substance. There's no heart in most of his movies, just shot after shot to satisfy his inner teenager.

bad_ass_neil · 13 Jul 2015 at 08:36

no it will be batman coming out of retirement. or something along those lines.

they have also said Gotham and metropolis are very close a little like up and down town.

CaptainRAVE · 13 Jul 2015 at 08:54

That trailer actually looks pretty decent. Think it will just be that, fun, but just decent.

NexusK · 13 Jul 2015 at 09:17

I think the trailer looks great but then i'm in the minority and thought Man of Steel was a good movie.

Efour · 13 Jul 2015 at 12:44

All these superhero movies have flooded the market so hard over the past 5 years...

Again i have no previous knowledge of comic books and how these two iconic characters come to blows... I know of the Justice league, so i guess this is how it all starts out ?

I'm interested in this. That 3 min trailer is pretty good.

Man of Steel was Ok.... It only got tedious towards the end and the elongated fight scenes.

Steampunk · 13 Jul 2015 at 13:38

Efour said:
All these superhero movies have flooded the market so hard over the past 5 years...

Again i have no previous knowledge of comic books and how these two iconic characters come to blows... I know of the Justice league, so i guess this is how it all starts out ?
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It comes from Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns. It's a seminal comic book that is pretty much why Batman came back in the first Burton movies.

In the book, Batman is older and retired. All superheroes have been banned except for Superman. He answers to the US government and polices the ban and acts as a superweapon on the US behalf.

Bruce Wayne is now a bored thrill-seeker who sees the world going to the dogs around him, ever increasing lawlessness, and suffers some kind of psychotic break. He comes back as Batman, and Superman gets sent after him, hence the final showdown between the two where Batman is in an armoured exo-suit, and tricks Superman with synthesized kryptonite. At this point Batman is in a position to kill Superman and set the world back into the hands of those who will move it forwards for the sake of humanity, rather than the likes of Superman will do what he's told and who have taken people's fate out of their hands and are holding the world stuck in the same spot.

Efour · 13 Jul 2015 at 15:28

Cool i dont have to watch it now

thx

Gerard · 13 Jul 2015 at 15:56

Washout said:
But this isn't a sequel to the other movies, it's a reboot.

Does it matter really? With superman there's some things you expect, and showing strain for what would appear to be basic tasks for him makes me wonder.

FutileBreadMachine said:
They made him weaker in these so he is more relatable I guess, and maybe so the fight with Batman would be more palatable.

Was always going to be something that relied on kryptonite regardless though, just seems strange that they went that direction.

Newbie007 · 13 Jul 2015 at 16:13

Efour said:
Cool i dont have to watch it now thx

The animated version of TDKR is great, thoroughly recomend it. Part one is him donning the cowl again and taking on the street gangs and 2face. Part 2 is the Joker and Superman face off.

Malevolence · 13 Jul 2015 at 18:02

PlacidCasual said:
I watched the new trailer last night and it seemed like Bruce Wayne becomes Batman because of a Superman incident. I'm not sure I like that one bit. Must re-check trailer.

Edit: unless his employees are his family. Still not sure.

Pretty sure you see a young Bruce Wayne standing with his parents when they're shot and killed (02:28). So given that and the facts that you can see a dilapidated Wayne manor, Robin's suit with 'Hahaha, the jokes on you Batman' sprayed on it and the bat signal is already atop a building leads me to assume that the Superman incident that destroys Wayne tower leads to Batman coming out of retirement.

J.T · 14 Jul 2015 at 15:54

This is only a nod to TDKR, it isn't a word for word scene for scene movie take on it, they simply used some idea's from it as inspiration.

Remember this is meant to be the start of the justice league not then end.

SixTwoSix · 14 Jul 2015 at 16:14

Smeghead said:
The trailer looks pretty decent, but I really don't have much faith in Snyder. He's almost like Michael Bay - all style, no substance. There's no heart in most of his movies, just shot after shot to satisfy his inner teenager.

Agreed with his more recent offerings, however Watchmen is a near perfect comicbook movie. If this can be half as good as that was, i'll be happy.

Leeroy Jenkins · 14 Jul 2015 at 21:38

For those of you who are interested in Batman I recommend watching the Dark knight returns part 2.

It is pretty much based on this movie and it's a good watch. I would however recommend watching part 1, it's not as good as part 2 but its a good build up up to it.