Black Friday/cyber Monday - what would count as worth buying?

kieran_read · 17 Nov 2023 at 18:23

Honestly these prices are miserable, we had better prices before, prices slowly creeped up just so they could be cut for BF and even then I could swear the Sapphire Pulse cards were even lower than that last time they were on offer.

Any slither of hope I had has now evaporated I'm just going to skip this generation now.

MCFC_ANDY · 17 Nov 2023 at 18:31

kieran_read said:
Honestly these prices are miserable, we had better prices before, prices slowly creeped up just so they could be cut for BF and even then I could swear the Sapphire Pulse cards were even lower than that last time they were on offer.

Any slither of hope I had has now evaporated I'm just going to skip this generation now.

only hope and boy its a slim hope is that Nvidia go with aggressive pricing for the super/ti refreshes, in turn will force AMD to lower theirs, its less than a wafer thin hope i reckon, its more borderline insanity for even thinking it :cry:

GhostDog1981 · 17 Nov 2023 at 18:43

MCFC_ANDY said:
only hope and boy its a slim hope is that Nvidia go with aggressive pricing for the super/ti refreshes, in turn will force AMD to lower theirs, its less than a wafer thin hope i reckon, its more borderline insanity for even thinking it

bjjgann · 17 Nov 2023 at 18:51

Went for an RX7600 @ £256 delivered which includes Avatar (£60 to pre-order from Ubisoft) which I was buying anyway for my son's Xmas upgrade so I am happy with that. Best offer I could find online too.

kieran_read · 17 Nov 2023 at 19:01

MCFC_ANDY said:
only hope and boy its a slim hope is that Nvidia go with aggressive pricing for the super/ti refreshes, in turn will force AMD to lower theirs, its less than a wafer thin hope i reckon, its more borderline insanity for even thinking it

Ill be honest i've never felt so lethargic over a generation of tech before. The sad thing is I came in wanting to buy a new GPU, normally im even more focused on tech when it's a generation i'm intended to buy, it's impressive in a way that both companies have managed to destroy that ha.

randomdziad · 17 Nov 2023 at 19:06

kieran_read said:
Ill be honest i've never felt so lethargic over a generation of tech before. The sad thing is I came in wanting to buy a new GPU, normally im even more focused on tech when it's a generation i'm intended to buy, it's impressive in a way that both companies have managed to destroy that ha.

So true... I really need to upgrade but GPU market is just so bad it's insane. BF was my last hope to get something decent but seems like discount to prices bit higher than there were few months ago is best you can get at the moment.

GhostDog1981 · 17 Nov 2023 at 19:46

randomdziad said:
So true... I really need to upgrade but GPU market is just so bad it's insane. BF was my last hope to get something decent but seems like discount to prices bit higher than there were few months ago is best you can get at the moment.

Glad I bought mine before BF.

arc@css · 17 Nov 2023 at 20:51

The Sapphire GPU deals, though mainly the 7800XT, look to be about the only thing I'd consider right now.

gazref · 17 Nov 2023 at 20:51

I've been wanting to upgrade my 5700xt for a while but paying 470 for a 6800xt/7800xt just doesn't sit right. 7900xt is appealing but a worse value proposition if 730 is the BF floor. No GPU upgrade no point in doing the cpu/mobo/ram either. What's a guy supposed to spend money on this BF?

Aegis · 17 Nov 2023 at 21:12

JollyJamma said:
I’ve seen a 2tb SN850X for £109.

That’s a bargain.

You can actually get a Seagate Firecuda 530 2TB ~~for less than the WD right now~~ (Seagate has 3 years free data recovery and supposedly wears better than the WD).

*Edit* sold out

you can get the one with the heat sink for £2 more than the WD.

BigBANGtheory · 17 Nov 2023 at 21:46

no deals at the high end I'll wager, completely excluded

MCFC_ANDY · 17 Nov 2023 at 21:53

BigBANGtheory said:
no deals at the high end I'll wager, completely excluded

folk that buy high end dont need/deserve discounts if paying that amount of cash for a gpu

CashmereThoughts · 17 Nov 2023 at 22:01

MCFC_ANDY said:
folk that buy high end dont need/deserve discounts if paying that amount of cash for a gpu

With that said, high end cards raise the prices of some very, very bad GPU's.

MCFC_ANDY · 17 Nov 2023 at 22:26

CashmereThoughts said:
With that said, high end cards raise the prices of some very, very bad GPU's.

reason for high gpu's mainly mid to lower is gamers buying the bloody things, if they didnt buy then prices would fall, simple economics, apart from corporate greed, aka AMD/nvidia, especially the later

GhostDog1981 · 17 Nov 2023 at 22:43

MCFC_ANDY said:
reason for high gpu's mainly mid to lower is gamers buying the bloody things, if they didnt buy then prices would fall, simple economics, apart from corporate greed, aka AMD/nvidia, especially the later

You can’t run a pc without a graphics card and if your budget is not very high then what choice do people have than buy mid tier stuff.

MCFC_ANDY · 17 Nov 2023 at 22:50

GhostDog1981 said:
You can’t run a pc without a graphics card and if your budget is not very high then what choice do people have than buy mid tier stuff.

there is a used market that gives you far better value, you sure your not suffering FOMO here

theres always a choice, your not being forced to buy a new over priced card

Tetras · 17 Nov 2023 at 23:00

MCFC_ANDY said:
if they didnt buy then prices would fall

I doubt it would make any difference now, they'd just make less cards for gamers. If you hold off for the market to change, you'll be waiting a long time (if ever).

CashmereThoughts · 17 Nov 2023 at 23:15

Tetras said:
I doubt it would make any difference now, they'd just make less cards for gamers. If you hold off for the market to change, you'll be waiting a long time (if ever).

To be fair, I thought the same, but according to Reuters, half of Nvidia profit comes from gaming and thus, one has to assume that profit margins in graphics card sales would be at the very forefront of Nvidia's thinking. If their profits; - and subsequently their shares were to experiences a contraction, then they would absolutely react.

Tetras · 17 Nov 2023 at 23:20

CashmereThoughts said:
To be fair, I thought the same, but according to Reuters, half of Nvidia profit comes from gaming and thus, one has to assume that profit margins in graphics card sales would be at the very forefront of Nvidia's thinking. If their profits; - and subsequently their shares were to experiences a contraction, then they would absolutely react.

Yeah, I did check that before my post (what I saw said 4x% something), but there's massive growth in AI/datacentre markets and gaming isn't shrinking. They're still selling everything they can make (even at the high-end). A few rebel gamers are just a drop in the ocean.

If I needed a card and saw a decent BF deal, I'd just buy it.

CashmereThoughts · 17 Nov 2023 at 23:52

Tetras said:
Yeah, I did check that before my post (what I saw said 4x% something), but there's massive growth in AI/datacentre markets and gaming isn't shrinking. They're still selling everything they can make (even at the high-end). A few rebel gamers are just a drop in the ocean.

If I needed a card and saw a decent BF deal, I'd just buy it.

I'm guessing there is a lot of over business/r&d synergy. Seeing as Nvidia own 80 to 95% of the AI market - I'd say, people whom bet on DLSS, are good to go.

On a side note, I'd love to know how much Nvidia actually invest into "gaming" arm of their enterprise. I may go look for it.