BMW and M Power Owners

LiE · 10 May 2018 at 18:45

BMW friends, please can you cast your eyes upon this vehicle and let me know your thoughts.

For my wife, previously had an MX5.

2011 Z4 30i manual.

https://www.baronsgroup.co.uk/bmw/used-cars/z-series/z4-sdrive30i-m-sport-roadster/hy11mwm

[TW]Fox · 10 May 2018 at 19:27

Specification is excellent, nav is rare on these and makes a big difference to the interior. Does seem expensive though?

LiE · 10 May 2018 at 19:31

[TW]Fox said:
Specification is excellent, nav is rare on these and makes a big difference to the interior. Does seem expensive though?

Seems to be the going rate for these.

e.g. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201804135509423?postcode=mk22lq&maximum-mileage=60000&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&aggregatedTrim=30i&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&model=Z4&year-from=2011&transmission=Manual&make=BMW&sort=datedesc&page=1

and that one doesn't even had iDrive..

This 2012 sold and it's priced higher.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201712212210648?postcode=mk22lq&maximum-mileage=60000&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&aggregatedTrim=30i&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&model=Z4&year-from=2011&transmission=Manual&make=BMW&sort=datedesc&page=1

Think I'll give them a call tomorrow, they're only 30 minutes away.

Similar price to the 28i manual. From my reading it seems the manual and 30i are a good match. Not sure if the 28i manual is the same, but I'm not reading many positive reviews on that gearbox.

rodenal · 10 May 2018 at 19:43

It's really difficult to see what makes that worth around £4.5k more than it's px value - even if there are others at a similar value that is a fairly excessive mark up.

LiE · 10 May 2018 at 19:46

rodenal said:
It's really difficult to see what makes that worth around £4.5k more than it's px value - even if there are others at a similar value that is a fairly excessive mark up.

Are you talking about the one I linked that sold or the one for 15.7k?

rodenal · 10 May 2018 at 19:48

The £15.5k car

LiE · 10 May 2018 at 19:51

rodenal said:
The £15.5k car

Fair enough. I'm not sure how they arrived at the price, but it is the going rate for these.

I guess the question should then be, if these are poor value, is the 28i better value/alternative?

This 28i has higher miles but it is 1 year newer and 14k. Factor in that with approved used you get 12 month warranty worth 500. So the real difference is about 1k, 15k more miles a year newer.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201804065303014?model=Z4&transmission=Manual&radius=1500&postcode=mk22lq&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&make=BMW&aggregatedTrim=28i&year-from=2011&maximum-mileage=60000&year-to=2013&page=1

rodenal · 10 May 2018 at 19:58

Never driven one unfortunately, only the 3.0. Go ahead and drive both to see what you think. Soundtrack will be significantly different I imagine

I'd be more inclined to hold out for a private sale car and just pay for warranty on a monthly basis. There are a couple of 2010/2011 cars for £12-13k which seems a far more sensible kind of price

LiE · 10 May 2018 at 19:59

Thanks, I'll pop over and give this one a drive at least and keep an eye on what appears on AT.

How are the 30i (N52?) in these?

[TW]Fox · 10 May 2018 at 22:53

LiE said:
Fair enough. I'm not sure how they arrived at the price, but it is the going rate for these.

I guess the question should then be, if these are poor value, is the 28i better value/alternative?

IMHO, yes, if you can get over the fact its a 4 pot not a 6 pot.

My Mum has a 20i, other than it's lack of power it's a great car and astonishingly efficient, it does over 45mpg on a Motorway run. The 28i is no more thirsty, costs no more to run and yet delivers a significantly greater amount of power - IMHO it's the best all round choice for the Z4.

Sadly the 28i is outnumbered by the 20i about 5 to 1, they are relatively uncommon.

But it's a 4 pot

SpeedFreak · 10 May 2018 at 23:11

[TW]Fox said:
What is it? M Sport or SE?

Having a look on Autotrader I'm guessing an M Sport like mine should be around 12-13 asking, but so many are garage sales as opposed to private so is tricky to tell what would be good starting point.

theone8181 · 11 May 2018 at 07:39

Im looking at one of these https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/...quoteref=3061ba89-2b7e-4434-9d9b-1a98ae62843e i think it might be a bit over priced (however its not been taxed for 3 months which im assuming is how long the dealers had it) so hopefully they want rid of it. Would it be cheeky offering 26?

Howard · 11 May 2018 at 08:09

LiE said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201712212210648?postcode=mk22lq&maximum-mileage=60000&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&aggregatedTrim=30i&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500&model=Z4&year-from=2011&transmission=Manual&make=BMW&sort=datedesc&page=1

Wow, that really is a lovely looking car. I usually hate white cars but that one really works for me, especially with the red interior. I don't know if it's just the photographs and artificial light making it look better or not, though. What a great shape, especially with the roof up. I really like these.

[TW]Fox · 11 May 2018 at 09:10

theone8181 said:
Im looking at one of these https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201802053428356?location=Beverley HU17, UK&quoteref=3061ba89-2b7e-4434-9d9b-1a98ae62843e i think it might be a bit over priced (however its not been taxed for 3 months which im assuming is how long the dealers had it) so hopefully they want rid of it. Would it be cheeky offering 26?

Wow it's insane how much an E92 still costs.

Simon · 11 May 2018 at 09:18

[TW]Fox said:
Wow it's insane how much an E92 still costs.

Desirable car innit with very low miles.

The last of the NA M cars

Simon · 11 May 2018 at 09:19

theone8181 said:
Im looking at one of these https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201802053428356?location=Beverley HU17, UK&quoteref=3061ba89-2b7e-4434-9d9b-1a98ae62843e i think it might be a bit over priced (however its not been taxed for 3 months which im assuming is how long the dealers had it) so hopefully they want rid of it. Would it be cheeky offering 26?

That’s competition pack money. Which isn’t much better on paper but the suspension,EDC and MDM mode are much better.

chanjy · 11 May 2018 at 12:15

[TW]Fox said:
Wow it's insane how much an E92 still costs.

They have increased over the last year or two, definitely.

At one point they were quite reasonably priced!

theone8181 · 11 May 2018 at 13:11

Simon said:
That’s competition pack money. Which isn’t much better on paper but the suspension,EDC and MDM mode are much better.

I had a look on the bmw site, and i cant see any comp pack e92 cars. I'm off to test drive tomorrow (when i booked it on wednesday the guy wanted me to view it that afternoon) so i think/ hope they will be up for some negotiation.

LiE · 11 May 2018 at 15:28

[TW]Fox said:
IMHO, yes, if you can get over the fact its a 4 pot not a 6 pot.

My Mum has a 20i, other than it's lack of power it's a great car and astonishingly efficient, it does over 45mpg on a Motorway run. The 28i is no more thirsty, costs no more to run and yet delivers a significantly greater amount of power - IMHO it's the best all round choice for the Z4.

Sadly the 28i is outnumbered by the 20i about 5 to 1, they are relatively uncommon.

But it's a 4 pot

We will be test driving both anyway.

The 30i I originally linked has already sold. I think we are going to wait until closer to November to buy one anyway, but in the meantime if a local one pops up we can test drive it.

I'm considering a 328i as our family car too, but need to look at funds. They look like a good package, and well priced.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...500&model=3 SERIES&aggregatedTrim=328i&page=2

panthro · 11 May 2018 at 20:20

LiE said:
Thanks, I'll pop over and give this one a drive at least and keep an eye on what appears on AT.

How are the 30i (N52?) in these?

It will be an N53 IIRC. Direct injection; good on fuel and pack a punch, but have some direct injection issues such as high pressure pumps and injectors.