Soldato
Where is the tyre damage? Can’t see it in the pic but I would def get the alloy checked out as well just in case.
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- Thread starter panthro
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You can't see it in those pics but there is a slice down the rubber directly underneath the arch. A flap so to speak, so it went down within a few seconds. No chance of it being repaired, it's a new tyre job. BMW will no doubt check over the wheel.
Just had the estimate through... ooooof £2845.90 including VAT.
Parts / Panels Requiring Renewal
L.F WHEEL
L.F RDC SENSOR
L.F TYRE
GRILLE BADGE
L.F WING
L.F SIDE PANEL BADGE
L.F BUMPER INSERT
L.F WING MOUNT
Parts / Panels Requiring Repair
REPAIR FRONT BUMPER
Associated Work Required
CHECK Pre BMW Reset
CHECK Post BMW Reset
CHECK QC and Valet
CHECK Tech. Info
CHECK KDS Alignment
Parts / Panels Requiring Painting
L/F WING NEW PART PAINTING
FRONT BUMPER REPAIR PAINT PLASTIC
LEFT FRONT DOOR SURFACE PAINT
Additional Items
EPA Charge
Parts / Panels Requiring Renewal
L.F WHEEL
L.F RDC SENSOR
L.F TYRE
GRILLE BADGE
L.F WING
L.F SIDE PANEL BADGE
L.F BUMPER INSERT
L.F WING MOUNT
Parts / Panels Requiring Repair
REPAIR FRONT BUMPER
Associated Work Required
CHECK Pre BMW Reset
CHECK Post BMW Reset
CHECK QC and Valet
CHECK Tech. Info
CHECK KDS Alignment
Parts / Panels Requiring Painting
L/F WING NEW PART PAINTING
FRONT BUMPER REPAIR PAINT PLASTIC
LEFT FRONT DOOR SURFACE PAINT
Additional Items
EPA Charge
Soldato
I think she'll elect to go via insurance. Now she (or her husband) will come back either saying "insurance please" or "that's ridiculous, I want another quote", at which you point you reply "no, I'll just have your insurance details please" 
Ouch, that is a big ole bill for a moments loss of concentration but as expected they wanted to replace the wheel and the wing! I'd ask to keep that old wheel as well if i were you, then you get a spare which likely has bugger all wrong with it!
Soldato
£3000 for that? Not really surprising that insurance quotes are so high and car insurance companies lose more money than they make.
That's a lot of new parts. Surprised they didn't say new bumper too, just for teh lulz.
Soldato
My Mini Countryman had two new doors and wing for £2800 insurance repair at BMW main dealer. That golf quote sounds steep.
They didn't know it was an insurance claim until after providing an estimate, it just went through the normal BMW emergency assistance > BMW shop process.
It is a bumper repair (sand/fill/paint/align), full wing replacement, wheel replacement, tyre replacement, all the clips/fixings/badges/further checks etc and the labour to go with it. It's definitely not a 1-2 hour job. £873.08 parts, £419.84 paint and £1066.66 labour. Even at a specialist I can't imagine it being that much cheaper for this type of work?
The technician said that once the wheel & tyre have been replaced, they can then carry out further tests on the suspension and chassis. He said there is a chance it damaged those too, which will obviously cause the bill to skyrocket.
I'm half tempted to ask for a new bumper to be honest.
It's a BMW M135i, not a golf.
I'm going to ask for the old wheel either as a spare or to sell on. I'm interested to see what's actually wrong with it tbh.
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Caporegime
Absolutely nothing I imagine. I can't see a mark on it in your pictures.
Yeah haha tell me about it. I only posted asking for help as I'm not familiar with the process. According to a bunch on there I'm the entire problem with the insurance industry, I kill children, horrible human, I'm screwing the liable party over etc etc - it's all my fault.
It's ok I'll get a bodge job done at Billy Bobs Garage with no lifetime warranty and invalidate my BMW warranty + insurance at a later date when the bumper falls off, or because they didn't notice damage to the suspension which manifested itself into a bigger issue.
If it was a minor scratch, scrape, buckled alloy etc - it would be with my specialist and sorted privately, but that isn't the case unfortunately. If I pay for a new tyre just to get it roadworthy and then drive it to another garage, it's going to become an even longer saga
Associate
That is an absolutely mental price for some very minor damage.
A good paintless dent repair guy could get that wing pulled out, then a few hundred to respray/blend the paint at a decent garage + new tyre.
To put it in perspective - Friend of mine got his Focus ST vandalised (keyed right down drivers side) and had the best part of the entire drivers side back to metal and resprayed from scratch at a very well reviewed local body shop for £600 and it honestly looks like new, you can't tell at all.
BMW are having a laugh there...
It's your car, but in my opinion, find a few good body shops, take the car to them, get some quotes and get the person who hit you to cover it.
A good paintless dent repair guy could get that wing pulled out, then a few hundred to respray/blend the paint at a decent garage + new tyre.
To put it in perspective - Friend of mine got his Focus ST vandalised (keyed right down drivers side) and had the best part of the entire drivers side back to metal and resprayed from scratch at a very well reviewed local body shop for £600 and it honestly looks like new, you can't tell at all.
BMW are having a laugh there...
It's your car, but in my opinion, find a few good body shops, take the car to them, get some quotes and get the person who hit you to cover it.
I completely understand your point, but you're missing a key element here - I can't drive the car to get alternative quotes, as the tyre needs replacing. If I go down the alternative route it means me personally paying for a tyre at BMW, claiming that back through insurance, then driving the car to different garages to check costs - it's a saga I can do without. The work won't come with a lifetime guarantee by BMW and there is no guarantee it won't cause problems with my warranty further down the line (or insurance if I use a non-approved shop). Can you realistically say the total price will be significantly less than £2.8k and the liable party will happily cough up? The second point being a key issue - even if the work magically comes to say £1k, I doubt she's going to cough up the money. She probably expected it to be a couple of hundred quid for a new tyre + paint for the damage.
Caporegime
To be fair, if I’d been hit and I’m not paying I’d want it done at BMW. The price isn’t really your problem.
Associate
It needs a new tyre regardless of where it's done, I'd pop onto camskill and just get one on order, take off the wheel and get it fitted (if you have any mates or OH that can give lifts or even get a mobile guy to fit it) - The person who hit you will know at the minimum she'll have to pay for a tyre.
Warranty shouldn't even be an issue? Your bumper is hardly hanging off the car, doesn't even look out of alignment much (if at all?). I'd see your point if structure/chassis damage was caused and parts were needed (crap from ECP that'll fail quickly vs BMW) I would completely agree and want/expect genuine BMW parts and warranty etc, however this does just seem cosmetic?
That is the problem, it's hard with things like this as nobody wants to get the insurance involved. Yes IMO, this is easily under £1k to fix, what's wrong with the sensor BMW want to replace? What's wrong with your wheel? It looks immaculate still, unless it's buckled or cracked they're just raking in the money under your insurance there and shafting everyone.
It is a stupid price, but you're not paying it and it's your choice, I'd want to make sure your insurance doesn't go up as a result though. I got rear ended in my old car by some t*t on their phone and my insurance went up even though it all went through their insurance
Caporegime
Why go to the effort though? Let her insurance pay for the repair you want.
Exactly this. At the end of the day this is my car and I want it back to manufacturers standard - the best (but ultimately the most costly way) is to get that done directly through BMW. Yes, other bodyshops may match that standard, but it's a risk and requires more effort to sort out. I left the option open for her to pay, rather than immediately pushing for an insurance repair, but the cost has forced my hand.
Also this.
Anti-corrosion warranty is one thing it may void if the work isn't done by BMW surely? It looks cosmetic at the moment yes, but the estimate is based on a visual inspection and until they replace the tyre + take of the bumper etc, the true impact is unknown at this stage.
I'm going to query the sensor and wheel, as I most certainly agree with you on the latter - it still looks perfect to me (bar a minor scuff from a curb).
It is a stupid price, but you're not paying it and it's your choice, I'd want to make sure your insurance doesn't go up as a result though. I got rear ended in my old car by some t*t on their phone and my insurance went up even though it all went through their insurance
This is my worry but my insurer did explain that the value of the non-fault claim makes no difference, it's just the claim itself. Yes, if it was a £40k non-fault claim it may negatively impact the premium, but £1500 to £3000 is going to make zero difference.
Associate
All fair points.
For what it's worth I was told the cost of repair on my old car was £1200 (new rear bumper and cross member from Volvo fitted) and that was enough to bump my insurance up. It's not the value of the claim, it's the fact they log 'involved in an accident' against you, regardless of fault, which stupidly puts you as higher risk.
The joys of a near enough completely unregulated system
All fair points.
For what it's worth I was told the cost of repair on my old car was £1200 (new rear bumper and cross member from Volvo fitted) and that was enough to bump my insurance up. It's not the value of the claim, it's the fact they log 'involved in an accident' against you, regardless of fault, which stupidly puts you as higher risk.
The joys of a near enough completely unregulated system
Yeah - that's the problem and also another reason as to why going with BMW directly makes sense in this situation. I'm not paying anything, her insurer is and the difference in value between BMW and a specialist is not actually going to make a difference to my premium. It's going up regardless