British Grand Prix 2011, Silverstone Circuit - Race 9/19

Anyone seen the news on OBD it was meant to be 8:30 release.

Also :mad: no wonder we have DRS and how much of a muppet. Perhaps he should have seen the FOTA fan videos, where everyone acknlodges that F1 fans are very technically minded and want to know what's happening.
All sports face the dilemma of where the dividing line is between sport and entertainment. What are your guiding principles when you think about your sport.
“It’s the same for everybody. We need people to not go to an event and known what’s going to happen. When they go to a race they’re talking about all sorts of things, not mechanical things, but about the drivers; who’s going to win and who’s not going to win. That’s why all races that are held in we conditions are that much better.”
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This is the way I see it:

I'm convinced that Renault were just going to deal with it but have been pushed in to this by RBR who are running scared of losing their advantage. RBR got them to make the appeal this weekend so other teams wouldn't have a chance to complain / change their cars etc.. LRGP were testing rear exit exhausts last week - i.e. they had totally changed the way they were blowing the diffuser/floor and presumably were doing so without lots of throttle open on overrun - why would they do that if they were going to get 50% permitted anyway?

The Mercedes dispensation was done a few weeks ago, the basis of this is to relieve crankcase pressure to reduce engine braking, the engine runs on 4 cylinders with 10% throttle on over-run, this is different to the hot blowing we've seen this year with some teams using much more throttle than that on 8 cylinders.
I'm trying to find out more details of what Merc are doing to get an idea of the performance benefit (I'm assuming there is one..)
 
“@JensonButton: Morning guys, finally the engine mapping regulations have been decided for the weekend 1hr before Practice3!! Let's get down to business ;-)”

But no idea what if anything they changed.
 
Just hope they left it how it was previously. Its obviously not a simple change to make.
 
The announcement has been made, Andrew Benson says:

andrewbensonf1 Andrew Benson
A directive is issued on engines and blowing. Think it means Merc get their over-run fuelling but Renault not their 50% blowing. More soon
 
andrewbensonf1 Andrew Benson
A clearly angry Christian Horner is heading to talk to Charlie Whiting after decision not to allow Renault the concession they won on Friday

tedkravitz Ted Kravitz
Renault's request for 50% exhaust blowing denied. Only allowed 10%. Mercedes allowed pre-agreed hot blowing. Possible Red Bull protest.
 
So is hot blowing over 10%? If so that's still rubbish.
Why the hell do they not say, run the old maps for the rest of the season.

“@andrewbensonf1: Horner refuses to comment. "I'm off to see Charlie now. I'm not going to say anything." #bbcf1”
 
Duke said:
Over run and over run ;)
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:D

@andrewbensonf1 said:
Horner refuses to comment. "I'm off to see Charlie now. I'm not going to say anything
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Is it just me that really likes to see Chris Horner when he's hacked off? Much better than seeing him all smug and happy that he's winning!
 
If I were Martin Whitmarsh (after yesterday's ruling), I would've been absolutely livid...and I mean livid.

I read that Whitmarsh and Horner were having discussions in the press conference. As someone has asked for earlier, is there a video of that press conference, anywhere?
 
smr said:
Good news though for us Mclaren fans? :)
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Not yet. Given that the FIA are now changing the rules on an almost hourly basis, lets wait and see what happens. I said earlier that this issue has many more twists and turns before it is settled and I still think there is more to go.

Another point is that we don't know for a fact how the new regs will effect each car. Its all just conjecture that yesterday's regs would mean RBR would win every race. We don't know this for sure.

Remember, last week when qualifying engine maps were outlawed, everybody thought that RBR would struggle in qualifying. Did they? Nope. In fact, nothing really changed.
 
I think its quite acceptable to say "no dispensation applications will be accepted once the event has begun" (event began officially at 10am Thursday).

The FIA should have thought of that yesterday to be honest.

Horner flouncing off to go and see Charlie just re-enforces my thoughts that the Renault 50% thing was a request from RBR done by proxy through Renault.

We might just have a race on our hands here...
 
sunama said:
Not yet. Given that the FIA are now changing the rules on an almost hourly basis, lets wait and see what happens. I said earlier that this issue has many more twists and turns before it is settled and I still think there is more to go.

Another point is that we don't know for a fact how the new regs will effect each car. Its all just conjecture that yesterday's regs would mean RBR would win every race. We don't know this for sure.

Remember, last week when qualifying engine maps were outlawed, everybody thought that RBR would struggle in qualifying. Did they? Nope. In fact, nothing really changed.
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Map changes didn't affect RBR as much because they cold blow.
I can't see them changing the rules again, once qualifying starts the cars cannot be changed at all, so time is quickly running out.
 
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