Bruce Lee vs Modern Martial Arts
- Thread starter Mana
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Instead of actually countering points you insult me. You lose yet again chum.
I can't counter something that is irrational. So I thought I would state the obvious.
Who did you used to be on here I remember someone said in another thread but I've forgotten.
Soldato
The is Wing Chun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GnEm45Dhk These caged fighters would last about 3 seconds 
And when I am better I will start training again(hopefully)
And when I am better I will start training again(hopefully)
Soldato
What happens if i throw a hook?
Soldato
The is Wing Chun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GnEm45Dhk These caged fighters would last about 3 seconds
And when I am better I will start training again(hopefully)
I think little boys and girls play that in school while they sing and rhyme don't they? Clapping games?
If it worked in a real fight, those idiots who think it works would use it and become millionaires over night competing. It doesn't work, so they don't.
Soldato
You think cage fighting is real? Go and see a bare knuckle fight now that's real
Anyway each to our own as long as it keeps you fit 
The is Wing Chun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GnEm45Dhk These caged fighters would last about 3 seconds
And when I am better I will start training again(hopefully)
whats wing chun got to do with anything? it was the martial art bruce lee first trained and I think only for about 2 years when he was around 13
he thai maui , boxing , fencing etc
Soldato
You think cage fighting is real? Go and see a bare knuckle fight now that's real
Where can we watch these highly skilled bare knuckle fights?
Taxi rank: Broad St, Birmingham City Centre. Every Friday Night.
You think cage fighting is real? Go and see a bare knuckle fight now that's real
I have done mate, they were awful sloppy boxing, brave guys though, not something I would ever do.
Wow, for MMA being so empirical I'm rather surprised with the Bruce lee fanfare here.
First, Bruce Lee contributed greatly to inspiring people to train in martial arts and as a historian he will forever be a huge influence in the west specifically. Also he created a philosophy that his students later created as a style that has made him forever a part of history as well. But do to his life focus on being an entertainer and his life tragically stopped very short as a martial artist who never competed professionally he is not a member of the "Fighting" community whatsoever regarding history or historical content whatsoever (I will explain). There is no vetting of Bruce Lee able to fight other than rumors, polite nods from people in the "Biz" and students. If that is this subs standards for a "vetted fighter" then there are 100,000s of "supernatural fighters" as we speak right now that have never stepped in the ring.
If this is the subs standard and Bruce Lee gets the pass then Steven Seagal, Jackie Chan, and whole list I have handy of a "great fighters". In the case of Steven Seagal, he is actually more vetted martial artist than Bruce Lee generally speaking (i.e., age, years training, rank, more respected in MA circles, tested by boards, etc.). Please note, I'm not defending the humor in this sub at his expense
Bruce Lee was the hot ticket and the truth is there was much racism in Martial Arts. If you are Asian you must know Martial Arts. Bruce was a bridge for Westerns to get validity, he was talented, he was a star and therefore people were sychophants to Bruce. In short they sucked up to Bruce even thought they may well could kick his ass. Here's Chuck Norris politely supporting[1] me and the below biography that is hated by his die hard fans (even though it still is rather kind to Bruce).
The wiki is the best of his best rumors for your consumption[2] (e.g., authors taking Bruce's or mostly his wife's word for it). It doesn't include equally credible rumors such as Yip's (IP man) Senior students "easily beating" him before he traveled to the USA. A common Hong Kong rumor that has only dissolved because people don't speak ill of the dead, especially a fellow native of Hong Kong. Nor does this include the over inflated reputation Yip himself. Now keep in mind at 18 who was Bruce's instructor from then on?
Worse, his most famous story of a won fight is now told with multiple witnesses saying he lost.[3] With Bruce's version of Wong Jack Man "running away from him" in frankly not plausible. The fight took place in a mere 15 x 15 square foot room in a tiny building (this part is very believable in the book given the architecture layout). Granted the author says he is a fan of the Bruce, but still the author is student of Bruce's opponent. So, I frankly don't give it too much credibility (for either side). Everything that surrounds Bruce regarding contests of skills besides a students' version falls short. And I'm sorry, if that's credible to you than there are tons of Bruce Lees as type right now all over the world. Worse about this "myth" is that Bruce fought this fight so he could "teach non Asians". Both Bruce and Wong Jack Man refute this ever had anything to do with the event and you the reader should note how much myth has surrounded Bruce being a "Super hero" bringing a "hidden art" to the wester world. That Bruce Lee being on the Silver Screen made him bigger than life and the made fans surround him with Myth. How much of that is about his fighting ability still today?
Am I saying Bruce Lee is not talented -- Absolutely not!
What I am saying, is he was a very talented person surrounded by a vacuum of martial arts (USA), and a nation starving for quality martial arts instructors (i.e., 12 month tour Vietnam vets being commonly considered "experts/black belts"). Of course he is going to be a God amongst clumsy adults.
Just like a talented American Highschool Baseball player would be traveling to Japan and teaching baseball to corporate adults. Meanwhile, back home a professional baseball players would be like, "WTF?"
And if you look at history during this time period in Hong Kong, China, etc., that's exactly what you see regarding Bruce Lee. Please, no one on the other side of the Pacific believes this Mythos. The question is why do people still do?
Here's the Biography I referred to above, though hated by Fans, that balances out the equation a bit.[4]
TL;DR If you believe in Movie Screens and/or students for your validity for marital artists then there are 100,000s of Bruce Lees as we speak right now. For a sub that believes in the ring to validate a person and styles ability in the ring I am shocked at the upvotes for someone who has never been witnessed to ever win a fight.
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/1husv1/ufc_keeping_it_real/cayj74r
Soldato
You have no clue at all what it is they are doing. Before you make judgement try to find out some basic information about the subject first.
I know that in a fight with someone half competent a little girls clap game is not going to help you. It's nonsense. If it worked boxers and mma fighters would be using it.
Bullshido at its finest.
The is Wing Chun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97GnEm45Dhk These caged fighters would last about 3 seconds
And when I am better I will start training again(hopefully)
You are kidding, right? A cage fighter would last 3 seconds against the guys in that video?
Amazing how much absolute BS you read, and how little people apply common sense when comparing martial arts.
He's talking about 1966-1967
The only thing he knew about bruce lee back then was he was an actor so he's just telling it like it was.
anyway It's true.
bruce lee was a martial artist.
chuck norris did tournaments and was a professional fighter.
you might want to look up some chuck norris tournament videos
it's as rubbish looking as the wing chun ones people extract the urine out of.I'd imagine it would look a lot different in the street
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