'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

So the yanks might have shot it down and told no one then?
;)

Shoot a bit off it, so it comes down in one piece and sinks and splatters over a short area, rather than russian missile strike in ukriane which splattered its bits all over the place :p
 
almost certainly from a 777 but already confusion around the part number (the Austrailian PM giving a different part number to that reported by the investigators on the ground), which does relate to the 777 part manual
 
If it is shown to be debris form the missing flight I think that will be the only information that really matters to the families of those on board.

It came down, everyone died. I don't think their families will be too bothered by the finer details. They won't bring loved ones back to life.
 
almost certainly from a 777 but already confusion around the part number (the Austrailian PM giving a different part number to that reported by the investigators on the ground), which does relate to the 777 part manual

Too many cooks.

It's essentially the same thing that happened when it went down. Everyone wanted to announce bits even if they didn't have a clear picture. Queue everything becoming very confusing.

unfortunately with 24 hour news and point scoring we can't just wait until one organisation does official announcements.
 
One has to question if they aint essential why put them on in the first place:D:D

same reason we fit 3 separate hydraulic systems to control stuff, redundancy.

If you want a worry read the minimum equipment lists its quite shocking just how many things can be missing or broken (or leaking) and still be alowed to fly lol
 
Never dealt with loss before, have you?

Yes I have, but perhaps I am more pragmatic than most.

Given the inherent difficulty with investigating this incident answers will not be forthcoming, and any information provided will mostly be speculation and best guesses which are not really helpful. If, however, the debris is proven to be from MH370 it would confirm the theory it went down at sea with the loss of all on board and that is probably going to be the only solid fact that families can try to use to get some closure unless by some miracle a debris field is found where enough pieces can be recovered to definitively ascertain what went wrong.

I know if it were me, I would choose to accept a loved one is gone and move on as best I could. Torturing myself over why or the finer details of what happened is never going to help, or bring them back. I would know there is nothing I could have done, and I would know that my loved one was equally dead whether I had a 500 page report telling me so or a simple one line statement.

I accept not everyone will think that way, but I am sure I can't be the only one.
 
same reason we fit 3 separate hydraulic systems to control stuff, redundancy.

If you want a worry read the minimum equipment lists its quite shocking just how many things can be missing or broken (or leaking) and still be alowed to fly lol

And if it's broken bring out the speed tape to scare the pax even more :D

Not sure I'd call a flapperon non essential (unless you only like going fast in straight lines), but also I do not feel you'd lose the aircraft over it as someone mentioned above.

If it is a 777 part, it's more than likely to be MH370 in my opinion. Parts falling off wings do not go unnoticed by authorities and as the B777 has been involved with so few incidents it does point that way. I'm sure it'll be confirmed either way in the next few days.
 
Yes I have, but perhaps I am more pragmatic than most.

Given the inherent difficulty with investigating this incident answers will not be forthcoming, and any information provided will mostly be speculation and best guesses which are not really helpful. If, however, the debris is proven to be from MH370 it would confirm the theory it went down at sea with the loss of all on board and that is probably going to be the only solid fact that families can try to use to get some closure unless by some miracle a debris field is found where enough pieces can be recovered to definitively ascertain what went wrong.

I know if it were me, I would choose to accept a loved one is gone and move on as best I could. Torturing myself over why or the finer details of what happened is never going to help, or bring them back. I would know there is nothing I could have done, and I would know that my loved one was equally dead whether I had a 500 page report telling me so or a simple one line statement.

I accept not everyone will think that way, but I am sure I can't be the only one.


I see this all the time on our Local forum "for local people" people always complaining about the "press" showing photos of an accident scene. Saying they should not be on there what if the family see them. Well being close to someone who died in an accident both myself and the family wanted to know everything.

If someone had videod the accident I'm sure we would have all watched it no matter how harrowing it would have been. Because i can picture it in my head from all the descriptions but I still don't "Know" what happened.
 
I see this all the time on our Local forum "for local people" people always complaining about the "press" showing photos of an accident scene. Saying they should not be on there what if the family see them. Well being close to someone who died in an accident both myself and the family wanted to know everything.

If someone had videod the accident I'm sure we would have all watched it no matter how harrowing it would have been. Because i can picture it in my head from all the descriptions but I still don't "Know" what happened.

I think people deal with loss differently.

I heard a family member of one of the passengers on MH370 and she said that if the piece of debris is proven to be from the plane she could put to rest her loved one and gain closure because she would know he didn't make it.

The main point I am trying to make though is that if there comes a point when answers can't be found what do you do? Torture yourself over the why's? Or accept **** happens and move on with your life?

For example, my uncle committed suicide, hung himslef from a tree in the woods. No note, no reasons - nothing. Why did he do it? I dont know, but what I do know is not knowing why did not change the fact he was dead and that we had to grieve and move on. Living in a constant state of grief because you cant let go of the why's is destructive. Fortunately my auntie knew this and has moved on and is now really happy. I resolved the issue by simply accepting he obviously felt that he had to do it and if someone is that resolved there is likely nothing I could have done.

It's sad but the world keeps turning and life goes on.
 
So it's emerging now that locals found stuff on the beach back in May including, but not limited to:

A blue airplane seat
Suitcases
The same flaperon

with the former two being piled up and burnt as is per their instructions when debris washes ashore....great
 
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