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Lol, imagine a loop temp in the 90's. Steam starts coming out the rad.
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Core 9000 series
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Yup. It also has that feel of a last hurrah for the architecture before they do something new.
But who knows.
I wish the 2700x would crush a 4770k, but for gaming it just isn't true in most cases (just check GamersNexus review, 2700x and 4790k are always too close (OCed 4770k and stock 4790k are basically the same CPU :/).
Soldato
The pumps are the issue, sitting at boiling temps water after the first few minutes.
And that reminded me a very informative video of how AIO "lie" to the users.
Soldato
Oh you're serious. The IHS (aka Tcase) doesn't get to those temps, the reported temps are from the cores or Tjunction. Or technically the delta to Tjunction. What the video above discusses is thermal equilibrium. What the pump head sees, especially with water flowing, at the IHS is way lower than Tjmax.
edit, sorry should add Tjmax is where the delta goes to zero and the cpu starts to throttle.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005597/processors.html
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Granted, but you're doing a lot more than just gaming with your multi tasking needs... 2700X delivers on that front, and for a great price.
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The only watercooling that going to survive is the EK MLC/Predator and the custom ones.
However due to their waterflow, it will heat the GPUs.
As for custom, assuming nobody has done the mistake to drop the hot water into the reservoir instead of going into the radiators first.
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As long as there's a reasonable flow rate and a rad in the loop thermal equilibrium will take care of the loop temp pretty quickly. Such doom and gloom, I agree the smaller AIO's will go well over the delta 10C range. But cheer up you make it sound like we haven't cooled monsters before. Its the TDP that's dumped into the loop that matters. Think back a bit, had lots of fun clocking 6 core Xeons, X5680 at 1.5v. The TDP on those make this look easy.
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Soldato
Is it before or after the rad?
The majority "Asetek" style ones are on the block.
OMG not another cpu that needs delidding and lapping your having a laugh right these already cost £600..and I thought the rtx mess was insane I think its time to run my pc into the ground until a worthy console appears in a couple of years. Sad times indeed
Soldato
AMD do offer very good value in comparison though it's not the end of the line for pc gaming.
Soldato
Makes no difference if the pumps moving water in the loop. If its a decent 'system' they should quote a thermal resistance in C/W. The rule of thumb is to aim for less than 10C delta over ambient for the loop temp.
Remembering that each interface has its own thermal resistance and they add as a sum. Block to TIM to IHS to STIM to silicon etc, gradually getting hotter at the core Tjunction.
Not really taken a look at AIO's being an overkill custom loop sort of guy. But a Kraken X60 is 0.0768 C/W. Which isn't all that for a heavy load.
The X60 at 10C delta is 10/0.0768 or 132W. The 9900k hits 210w at stock 4.7Ghz peak turbo on all cores. On a x60 thats 16C delta over ambient and not even overclocked. Adding vcore ups the wattage rapidly. So maybe 20C+ loop temps. Cpu's going to get toasty.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liquid-coolers/9
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/21
Soldato
Relax. AMD has great CPUs at great value. Same applies to GPUs.
Soldato
Live overclock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSMW27gzzo
560mm rad CE, 4x Furious vardar 140, D5 pump. 2080ti, Asus Hero XI
Delidded. 5.1GHz. 1.26v. All cores. 70C coretemp on AVX Prime95, 60C's non AVX small fft 8x8. Supposedly the severe most stress test on i9. 276w using test clamp.
Cinebench, 3dmark Time Spy. 1.35v, 70C, 5.3GHz. vrms less than 60C.
16x Prime95 core hit 90C. 24A, 288w.
5.4GHz 1.42v. Cinebench Failing. Max temp 76C. Time Spy pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpSMW27gzzo
560mm rad CE, 4x Furious vardar 140, D5 pump. 2080ti, Asus Hero XI
Delidded. 5.1GHz. 1.26v. All cores. 70C coretemp on AVX Prime95, 60C's non AVX small fft 8x8. Supposedly the severe most stress test on i9. 276w using test clamp.
Cinebench, 3dmark Time Spy. 1.35v, 70C, 5.3GHz. vrms less than 60C.
16x Prime95 core hit 90C. 24A, 288w.
5.4GHz 1.42v. Cinebench Failing. Max temp 76C. Time Spy pass.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkN8X4pdWak
I probably made the right choice getting the 8086k as its £120 less then the 9700k and £240 less then the 9900k. But the 9900k will run at 5ghz on all cores with a decent air cooler
I probably made the right choice getting the 8086k as its £120 less then the 9700k and £240 less then the 9900k. But the 9900k will run at 5ghz on all cores with a decent air cooler
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Soldato
Seems like the new chips have some people in a pickle. If waiting for Intel 10nm or AMD 7nm next year, i wonder if there will be any upgrade path. Then we have DDR5 coming after them too.