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Core 9000 series

lnoton said:
String, are you currently weighing up between 9900k and 2950x?

I'm doing the same, as I'm also at 1440. Ill be interested in knowing the gap with the new cards too, they could be out and available by the time the 9000 comes out.
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Yes, that's my position too. I'll have my eye on the performance figures as I'm looking to upgrade my CPU by the end of the year.
 
beany_bot said:
Right, in all seriousness do we have a release or pre-release or pre-order date or ANYTHING for 9th gen chips yet?? Everything I see says Q3. Well, hate to say it but Q4 is fast approaching!
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Wccftech believes that Intel will first launch their 9th Gen unlocked 8 Cores and 6 Core CPUs on the 1st October along with the new Z390 motherboards.
 
There is some information out there but a turbo of 4.5GHz is far away for the 9400.
The i5-9400 is rumored to have a base clock of 2.9GHz and a turbo clock of 4.1GHz so that gives us a small 100Mhz up on base/turbo speeds compared to the i5-8400.
 
Panos said:
I bet that increase in TDP even on the 8600K/9600K is an excuse to sell Z390 boards and make Z370 obsolete.
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Most vendors have confirmed support for the 9th Gen on X370 and are issuing microcode updates to support. That said most vendors are readying Z390 with ASUS accidentally leaking their range on a post now taken down. We’re it not for AMD committing to AM4 for 7nm Ryzen 2 (3rd Generation) then I reckon you’d be right.
 
reef said:
If Intel were smart they would use the 9th gen to clear up the line-up so:

i3 - 4C / 8T
i5 - 6C / 12T
i7 - 8C / 16T

Whether they will though?
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i3 - ?????
i5 - 6C / 6T
i7 - 8C / 8T
i9 - 8C / 16T

Basically hyperthreading disabled on i5 and i7, one suspects all the Spectre and Meltdown flaws are taking their toll. I’m no chip designer but for the company that once heralded hyperthreading it must be more than a coincidence surely?

Now confirmed i7 and i9 will be soldered.
 
ilc72 said:
Most vendors have confirmed support for the 9th Gen on X370 and are issuing microcode updates to support. That said most vendors are readying Z390 with ASUS accidentally leaking their range on a post now taken down. We’re it not for AMD committing to AM4 for 7nm Ryzen 2 (3rd Generation) then I reckon you’d be right.
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How I see it based on the microcode posted at the Asus forums for Z370s. They all show one 8core code not two.
That makes me think that Intel would push the i9 as Z390 exclusive, leaving i7s to Z370. Is not like Intel hasn't done worse over the recent years. (Z170-270-Z370 anyone?)

That is why also I am holding and haven't moved my main system to X470. (the upstairs system is getting moved from X370 1800X to X399 2950X in september)

If 9900K is supported on the Z370I Strix (I have monoblock no VRM heat issue) then might consider the CPU (benchmarks pending) until X570 & Ryzen 7 3xxx hits, which I will definitely move over regardless.
Otherwise getting the Gaming 7 with a 2700X in September also.
 
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Panos said:
There are no X299 chips coming out. The next round are 3477 socket.
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Correct Skylake X is dead and new chips will run in a new socket on an X599 chipset according to latest information. However these will be really be Xeon parts, possibly with some limitations to differentiate from higher end Xeon SKUs such as 8180.

Latest rumours suggest hexa-channel memory support, perhaps to compound AMD’s issues on TR2 2990WX and 2970WX only having quad-channel memory meaning they don’t scale well in memory sensitive applications.
 
ilc72 said:
Correct Skylake X is dead and new chips will run in a new socket on an X599 chipset according to latest information. However these will be really be Xeon parts, possibly with some limitations to differentiate from higher end Xeon SKUs such as 8180.

Latest rumours suggest hexa-channel memory support, perhaps to compound AMD’s issues on TR2 2990WX and 2970WX only having quad-channel memory meaning they don’t scale well in memory sensitive applications.
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The problem is that 2990WX doesn't scale in Windows 10 on memory sensitive applications but in Linux and Windows Server 2016 runs fine like there is no issue!
 
Panos said:
How I see it based on the microcode posted at the Asus forums for Z370s. They all show one 8core code not two.
That makes me think that Intel would push the i9 as Z390 exclusive, leaving i7s to Z370. Is not like Intel hasn't done worse over the recent years. (Z170-270-Z370 anyone?)

That is why also I am holding and haven't moved my main system to X470. (the upstairs system is getting moved from X370 1800X to X399 2950X in september)

If 9900K is supported on the Z370I Strix (I have monoblock no VRM heat issue) then might consider the CPU (benchmarks pending) until X570 & Ryzen 7 3xxx hits, which I will definitely move over regardless.
Otherwise getting the Gaming 7 with a 2700X in September also.
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I bought an X470-F and have a monoblock for motherboard and GPU unopened awaiting release a new case. Would love a 2950X myself but can’t justify it to myself.

No Trading outside of the MM
 
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Panos said:
How I see it based on the microcode posted at the Asus forums for Z370s. They all show one 8core code not two.
That makes me think that Intel would push the i9 as Z390 exclusive, leaving i7s to Z370. Is not like Intel hasn't done worse over the recent years. (Z170-270-Z370 anyone?)

That is why also I am holding and haven't moved my main system to X470. (the upstairs system is getting moved from X370 1800X to X399 2950X in september)

If 9900K is supported on the Z370I Strix (I have monoblock no VRM heat issue) then might consider the CPU (benchmarks pending) until X570 & Ryzen 7 3xxx hits, which I will definitely move over regardless.
Otherwise getting the Gaming 7 with a 2700X in September also.
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The 8600k and 8700k share the same microcode so if that's anything to go by the 8c i7s and i9s will too, just one will have HT disabled.
 
ilc72 said:
I bought an X470-F and have a monoblock for motherboard and GPU unopened awaiting release a new case. Would love a 2950X myself but can’t justify it to myself.
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Gave as gift the 1800X (CH6 and one Predator 360) to my brother to replace his ancient 4930K. But I will let you know when I am selling the current setup (Z370I Strix, monoblock, 8600K) which I would happily split. Btw the monoblock is crystal clear like brand new, as I am using clear liquid (EK cryo) with my Predator 360.
 
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NinjaCool said:
There is some information out there but a turbo of 4.5GHz is far away for the 9400.
The i5-9400 is rumored to have a base clock of 2.9GHz and a turbo clock of 4.1GHz so that gives us a small 100Mhz up on base/turbo speeds compared to the i5-8400.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its most likely the Core i5 9600 non-K will have close to 4.5GHZ Turbo but close to the price of the Core i5 9600K I suspect.
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humbug said:
The 9600K has an all core Turbo of 4.3Ghz.

So yes while the 9400 is not listed its likely to be no more than 4.1Ghz, if that, the 8400 is only 3.9.

https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-gen-core-cpus-specs-confirmed-core-i9-9900k-8-core-soldered-ihs/
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Ok, thanks. Will the 9400 likely have any other improvements over the 8400?

Do you guys also reckon these will drop prices of the current intel chips much further?
 
lnoton said:
String, are you currently weighing up between 9900k and 2950x?

I'm doing the same, as I'm also at 1440. Ill be interested in knowing the gap with the new cards too, they could be out and available by the time the 9000 comes out.
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New card/s will defo be out by the time 9th Gen arrives. Don't even have a release dat
NinjaCool said:
Wccftech believes that Intel will first launch their 9th Gen unlocked 8 Cores and 6 Core CPUs on the 1st October along with the new Z390 motherboards.
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Thank you!
 
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