Description of Afterlife?

bhavv said:
Ok, so if there is a God, then why was that girl in a wheelchair?



Yes there is, its called a conscience.
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I don't know.

I know, I gave the Yahoo link, though then we are back to where does conscience come from.

You have *****ed my conscience with that first reply, though not destroyed my faith in God. Only God can do that as apparently faith is a gift. Awaits the usual "How convenient." response and leaves the thread for now in search of answers from God.

*.Edit. Stupid censor - Pri1cked.

*.Re-edit. I only now remembered, Candice had had her feet burnt by an ex partner. Not sure if that is what put her in the wheelchair. Even though I did not go back to the church I went back to Candices house with flowers to say thank you.
 
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jmc007 said:
Still what I said is the case if there is no God, then neither is there in accounting for our actions in some way.
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Other than our personal conscience? Or more selfishly the idea of reciprocity? Or the fear of getting caught and being punished by the law?

By saying "I best be a good person or God will punish me" you are not being a good person, you are being a scared person.

jmc007 said:
I haven't really got the time nor inclination to get into this kind of debate, though I only now read this and seems pretty good to me.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110415062856AAMqW0W
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Then I would refrain from saying that morality comes from God. As to your link, the question is fundamentally flawed from the outset as the person divorces the effects of an action from the action. An bad action is bad because of it's effects.
 
Yes.
Thought to add whilst here walking with the dog in a park full of activity. When I said I had neither the time nor inclination, closer to the truth would be my lack of capacity to debate at this level. :)
Peace all.
 
I have no purpose but to live..

Trillions of burning rocks floating around a dark, unimaginably enormous abyss of nothingness. Earth just so happens to have the right conditions to support the life we know. No doubt there are other rocks out there with completely different conditions, suited to supporting completely different but equally purportless life...

I don't think there is any kind of afterlife, just nothing.
 
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Lemin said:
I was brought back 3 times one night by defibrillator. Was all black each time. The end.
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same here, all i got was a feeling like a wheel spinning slowly to a stop, and it stopped. and nothing.

then they brung me back, i would love to think there is something, but i seriously think it is just nothing/end/fin.
 
Originally Posted by ants83
spot on that, i think most religious people are terrified of death and need to be told there is something more to live, when in reality we are here solely to reproduce and as humans we have done that!
the end is, well then end.
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chipachap said:
Exactly, well said!
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How can that be well said? Gross generalisation much :rolleyes: You don't think there is more to life that we can know? Part of this is fundamental to being religious as well as being spiritual and not tied to any particular denomination. A lot of religious people are too busy contemplating the joys of life to be overly concerned by death so I fail to see from what evidence, beyond prejudice, that Ants83 derived his conclusion?
 
offering up opinion as matter of fact I'm afraid. There are a number of reasons why an individual might become religious or if not religious, then spiritual.
 
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jmc007 said:
Fair does and you are probably more correct, thought that wasn't the point I was trying to reinforce. I would say now though that morality comes from God, not Religion and certainly not man.
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Are you trolling? If not I can't believe you just said something as ridiculous as that.
 
synaptik said:
How can that be well said? Gross generalisation much :rolleyes: You don't think there is more to life that we can know? Part of this is fundamental to being religious as well as being spiritual and not tied to any particular denomination. A lot of religious people are too busy contemplating the joys of life to be overly concerned by death so I fail to see from what evidence, beyond prejudice, that Ants83 derived his conclusion?
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I was referring to the post by mrk, I quoted wrongly.

In response to the part in bold, yes obviously there is but it's not (a) god imho. Q's such as how the universe came to be, pre big bang etc. is what I want to know. But thinking some big lad "up there somewhere" made the world just for us is so selfish and delusional it makes me laugh. Most religions are nothing more than cults and basically racketeering at the end of the day.

I'd be more inclined to believe of other dimensions before most religions.
 
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In response to the part in bold, yes obviously there is but it's not (a) god imho
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Regarding that the jury is likely to be out for a very long time ;) This is not to say that the religious are not entitled to their opinion either.
 
agree with Castiel, Radiation and mostly MRK.

Its worth taking note that:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man
(George Bernard Shaw)

and

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.(Hamlet)

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Its the same with those who instantly leap to the conclusion that people who believe in God do so as a crutch, a comfort, or defence mechanism....

No - thats YOUR dogma and your perspective...which has nothing to do with how and why that religious person believes as they do.

I do admire the infinite patience of some people in this thread though ;)
 
There is no one alive that knows what happens after one dies, and given that, it should make one incredibly suspicious of claims made to that knowledge. I will happily say that, although I don't know if there's an 'afterlife', anybody that does claim to know, is wrong.
 
Naffa said:
There is no one alive that knows what happens after one dies, and given that, it should make one incredibly suspicious of claims made to that knowledge. I will happily say that, although I don't know if there's an 'afterlife', anybody that does claim to know, is wrong.
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They would certainly be wrong about 'claiming to know'...but they might be right or wrong and everything in-between about the claim itself.....:p
 
Castiel said:
They would certainly be wrong about 'claiming to know'...but they might be right or wrong and everything in-between about the claim itself.....:p
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It's possible, but immensely unlikely. Karl Pilkington's super power to the rescue. ;)
 
ispy said:
Of the most curious and perplexing questions in most peoples mind at some stage in life will be to contemplate on the purpose of their life and being here and what ultimately transpires after death.

Focusing on the events leading up to the Day of Judgement and destinations Paradise and Hell the Islamic version of events are expounded upon in great detail in the English lectures below. I hope the objective person will find them highly interesting and insightful glimpse into the afterlife as elucidated to in Islam.

Aim of this thread is not to ascertain whether you believe in God and afterlife or otherwise; rather if you do what do your authentic texts/beliefs state about it?

Lecture series in English language. High quality MP3. Click on ''play'' graphic icon or link when page loads.
As the intended audience is Muslims there is naturally usage of Arabic terminology at times; but hopefully this should not hinder from grasping the essence of what is being described.


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Fantastic but it saddens me to see "Scholars" turned into overweight people. If they want to emulate the Prophet or even the Sahaba then they should bloody well know that excessive weight is a NO NO and sport is encouraged.
 
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