*** Destiny Raid & PvP discussion thread ***

Fr0dders said:
So it would appear that our Xbox party has managed to stumble upon the ideal strategy for crota. Don't click the spoiler unless you want to read a strategy for the final boss in the Crota raid.

Reading this strateg on reddit, its pretty much word for word what we were doing last night.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2oxk54/crotas_end_phase_4_final_boss_guide/

The interesting part is the Ogres aren't timed, or caused by moving back further into the cave, but linked to the waves. The 3rd sword bearer will not spawn until you have taken out the two ogres. Once they die they won't come back again until its time for the 6th sword.

The "two times" trick I was reading about but didn't fully understand until now is to utilize the full 45 seconds the sword is active for. DPS Crota, get his shield to half health, get the sword from the dead sword bearer such he dies when crotas shield is still up and you pick the sword up, run toward crota and the shield drops just as you get there. Get two good hits in, then drop back down. DPS him again for the shield to get him again and get one or two good hits in just as the sword runs out, hitting him multiple times in two "sessions" during the 45 seconds the sword is active for.
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We were trying something similar but with his full shield down - just getting the timing of doing that and getting the sword holder to him to do max damage is still WIP. Definitely feels like the sword holder has to be level 32 to get the damage per run high enough to complete before enrage.

I get the feeling with this raid and its components perfection is key as without it the mechanisms are setup to an unavoidable wipe far moreso than VoG
maxilive said:
From what I read on Neogaf they are still the old drops :o
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Really? Damn :(. Any ideas if that's for both normal and hard VoGs?

Bungie going haphazard with how they are trying to lock out non-DLC owners out of the stuff us DLC owners don't think is that important...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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zoomee said:
I'm getting a bit sick of it all already lol. Murmur weapon requires a rune stone which will take bout 2 weeks minimum to level up to at this rate. No point leveling up exotics until we either get an upgrade or it gets dropped.

I cba buying Vanguard Level 33 gear when it could potentially drop during the raid too - but this makes the raid VERY difficult with only a Level 30 character.

All to have it thrown in our faces when the next DLC lands - meh
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You have to get the Vanguard armour to get a chance to be level 31 as the raid armour radiant shard requirement is too high (21 shards you can only get from raids - raid armour hits +27 light before you need these shards :(). Yes you could convert energies but thats an Erin level 4 perk.

Im going for:
New Exotic Helm/Chest
Old Raid Helm/Chest
New Vanguard Gloves+Boots

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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ShakeNBake said:
WAT

sword bridge is stupidly hard if a) your max lvl is 30 and b) you're going in blind. took us ages to do XD

next area = lvl 32 "yellow named" mobs = anything but easy for lvl 30's O.o
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For the fact it could be done kinda shows how easy it is both blind and underleveled - we did the whole raid up until the final boss within an hour the following day so yeah easy isnt that far off in reality in comparison to the final boss...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
So guys when do you want to try and finish the raid? Still need to get past the gatekeeper bit - thinking Sunday as a chance to get level 31 and Ill probably try and finish the other raid I had on Monday.

My Warlock will be level 31 luckily

1) Zhokel - 30 Titan
2) Demonic _Ant - 30 Warlock
3) Righteous_Rabbit - 30 Hunter
4) djcj - 30 Titan
5) ps3ud0 - 30 Warlock
6) ShakeNBake - 29 Titan

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ShakeNBake said:
I'm 30 now!
+ not sure if I will be free on Sunday but we'll see. Defo won't be free in morning / afternoon.
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jdwhalley said:
Could you put me down as a reserve for Sunday please. Hit 31 today and ready to tackle CE :)
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djcj said:
Sunday sounds good to me. Definitely want to get it finished before reset! My titan might be 31 by sunday too (also now have a nice new icebreaker and truth).
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Sorry guys been a busy few days so only just seeing these - unfortunately RL has kept me busy so I just won't have a chance to be on today at a reasonable hour to get CE done. Also while I have the armour to be 31 - lack of glimmer has killed any easy chance to upgrade :(

Hopefully tomorrow but please carry on without me if you get the chance. Love to have one final try at the boss before refresh just to see the damage difference and later parts of the fight...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
With VoG I tended to avoid cheeses unless it was on hard - don't have the same qualms with CE knowing how many radiant materials you could miss out on.

Anyone got a full list of the cheeses (spoilered in case) as I might consider doing multiple runs on a single night just to get my Destiny weeklies done quicker

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Thanks for the trouble - might do it for my ALTs while doing it normal on my main just to keep finessing the current techniques as no doubt Bungie with fix those cheeses.

Might be the new Friday evening thing :)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
zoomee said:
Hotfix going out already - expect the easy glitches to be fixed - knowing bungie well, they make undercover changes which screw everyone over.

anyhoo - time to get this weeks friday raid arranged. So here goes:

PSN Crotas End Friday 19th December 20:30 start (assembly from 20:15 please)

1)- Zoomeez - Level 31 Hunter
2)- Sieze2 - Level 3x Warlock
3)- AStaley - Level 31 Titan
4)-
5)-
6)-

Three slots available - first come first served, thanks dudez
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As always Ill be interested if possible?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
It isnt really - beyond Crota making detours he should be dead after 4/5 waves. Problem is that a single death eventually causes a wipe and missing a chance to damage him usually leads the same way...

Rockets should be used to get most of his shield down (just need 1 'horn for the first phase and perhaps 2 for the second) while primaries are used to ensure it doesnt regenerate and a bit of time for the sword bearer to get in place.

The only difficult things are when he moves or when you get the ogres and have to return to your routine.

Once youve got it down it just clicks! I disagree about communication - thats a must, usually when something goes wrong!

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
I'm glad people have replied to ShakeNBake as they have as I found it hard to convince him last night that the strat we were using (near identical to Thor's) was more than fine and we just need to finesse the timing to get Crota down. I knew the bubble was useless for the sword bearer but he wouldn't listen to me at the time sadly...

Least we know we are doing the right thing as we thought, just getting the swordbearer down asap is important - while the combo Zoomees was using was something he was comfortable in doing consistently.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
zoomee said:
Crota's End - PSN - Friday 26th December - 8:30 start.

1)- Zoomeez - Level 31 Hunter
2)- Sieze2 - Level 31 Warlock
3)- Polynomial - Level 31 Titan
4)- Righteous_Rabbit - Level 31 Hunter
5)-
6)-

Reserve: PyschoSonny

Two slots available....
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Am I right in thinking this is not likely to happen? In all honesty I've not had a chance to get online let alone Destiny and if I do it feels like I might aswell glimmer farm due to the things Xur has on offer this weekend.

Happy to try this over the weekend but the PSN connection doesn't seem good enough to raid with - last thing I want is to be kicked while trying to get somewhere in the raid...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
mid_gen said:
In all honesty, Gjallarhorn is great for quick burst DPS on Crota....but for VoG hard mode snipers are the better option. The two situations where the DPS is important (templar/atheon), you have harpies running around all over the place which are prone to appearing in front of you as you pull the trigger....had way more wipes due to that, than easy takedowns from the DPS.

If everyone's rocking IB/BH/P&T and a titan pops WoL you can dish crazy DPS with no risk.
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Got to disagree, 'Horn is better for Atheon than a sniper as ultimately the reason you gave not to use it is still a problem when you jump out of the bubble - having a person dealing with the Supplicants on HM seems sensible.

Best runs for me especially when we werent level 30 was with multiple 'Horn users

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Anyone fancy some early Tuesday CE raiding then ;)

Glad its getting fixed as the community feels like its gone to pot since the well known exploits were found out...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
mid_gen said:
Start with a Crota CP....then see what we fancy depending on how long it takes...possibly run Tibbz2 through VoG normal or do HM templar

1) mid_gen
2) Turbo_Nuter
3) AStaley
4) Torquar
5)
6)

Added you Torquar....what's your PSN?
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I'll join in - don't fancy doing the Crota checkpoint twice at all first?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Ok so the raids fixed - time to sort out a CE raid. Wednesday 8.15pm PS4?

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007
2) Greboth - Greeboth
3) Wyrdo - Wyrdo
4) Zoomeez - Zoomeez
5) Sieze2 - Sieze2
6) Reeve - Righteous_Rabbit

Might try and sort one out for Friday - depends how Weds goes :p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
See you all at 8ish - hoping to kick off promptly! Heard theres some possible cheese, but tbh rather just get it done properly :). Bring those heavy ammo packs!
ps3ud0 said:
Ok so the raids fixed - time to sort out a CE raid. Wednesday 8.15pm PS4?

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007
2) Greboth - Greeboth
3) Wyrdo - Wyrdo
4) Zoomeez - Zoomeez
5) Sieze2 - Sieze2
6) Reeve - Righteous_Rabbit

Might try and sort one out for Friday - depends how Weds goes :p

ps3ud0 :cool:
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ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Lets do this again :)

Friday 8.15pm PS4?

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007
2) Greboth - Greeboth
3) Zoomeez - Zoomeez
4) Reeve - Righteous_Rabbit
5) MachM - MachM82
6) oweneades - OweO

Might have a spare space, just waiting for a reply or two - if we do this quick anyone fancy VoG HM after?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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