*** Destiny Raid & PvP discussion thread ***

MachM said:
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So old ;)
thor said:
So, hard mode will very likely be made available next week, possibly week after. What do people think the new mechanics will be?

A few people have reported a glitch during Crota where a Gatekeeper appears and kills everyone (you can actually see him standing above the main room), so I imagine Gatekeepers will play a part. No doubt it'll be a similar mechanic to the bridge whereby once you kill the Swordbearer, a Gatekeeper spawns which can only be damaged with the sword.

Seeing how all the perks on the raid armour is related to the Oversoul, I'm thinking it'll play a bigger part in hard mode as well. Perhaps it'll just be harder to take out, similar to Oracles, but hopefully it'll be a bit more inventive than that.
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Tempted to say just the mechanic of no revives will be added, its Bungie :p. They only added the force fields from the Templar to Atheon HM so I can see the logic about bringing something from the Bridge fight to Crota HM. Already seems a hard enough fight with no revives anyway considering the automatic level disadvantage (I assume no revives but I guess that might not be a standard HM addition)

What Im more interested in is where the new raid loot will be placed because I wont be impressed if the new raid weapons are only at Crota and are part of a loot table that contains the already available weapons.

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oweneades said:
Hmmm bugger I appear to be double booked.

Didn't realise that I am meant to be helping my wife through the WH tonight... :o

I *may* still be available but can't guarantee availability.

Really sorry chaps :(.
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LOL that's alright :) - if its OK I'll try and see if anyone wants to join just so I know its sorted. Hate chasing last minute...

Anyone fancy CE tonight @ 8.15pm? Got a space spare

EDIT: Actually just noticed you said WH - shouldn't take that long? Happy to blast through it if you are around by say 7.45 to ensure you can make the raid?!?

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Ah OK dude - bad luck strikes again - good luck getting it back up over the weekend!

OK got a space free for tonight

Friday 8.15pm PS4

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007
2) Greboth - Greeboth
3) Zoomeez - Zoomeez
4) Reeve - Righteous_Rabbit
5) oneilldo - Facebaker
6) BF-Bert - DavieM66

SUB: oweneades - OweO

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If you dont get a full set of 32s I wouldnt mind trying HM - actually I might drag one of my characters to 32 - just need to see which one has the right combo

Chandler_90 said:
Also... Hard raid for PS4 on Wednesday night at 6PM GMT (or whenever it's released)

Wanting a team of 32s.. Who is up for some fun??

1. Evil Par5n1p, Warlock, Sunsinger
2. Dr3ddPS
3. Cowboybebop7DR
4. Greeboth
5. polynomial007
6.

Really wanna give this a go without any knowledge of what to expect!
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Dredd said:
polynomial007 not level 32 yet, only backup if we can't find 6 level 32s.

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I've done some testing in vault of glass on hard mode.

No point being over level 30, you can't give out anymore damage or take anymore.

331 guns need to be maxed out, each damage upgrade stage still works.

324 vs 331 increases damage output by around 200 extra with black hammer. But being level 31/32 don't.

Everyone should be using vault of glass armor for the perks.
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Yeah I am - decided to only make my Titan 32 as will have the Helm of Saint 14 or Glasshouse as his exotic which should be useful as a Defender

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ps3ud0 said:
Ah OK dude - bad luck strikes again - good luck getting it back up over the weekend!

OK got a space free for tonight

Friday 8.15pm PS4

1) ps3ud0 - polynomial007
2) Greboth - Greeboth
3) Zoomeez - Zoomeez
4) Reeve - Righteous_Rabbit
5) oneilldo - Facebaker
6) BF-Bert - DavieM66

SUB: oweneades - OweO

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Bah sorry - just remembered we had kinda organised to finish this tonight @ 8 - do you guys still want to do this? Happy to get it done tomorrow evening of anyone else needs to do Crota...

I'll be a 32 Titan so hopefully a better swordbearer!

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Yeah get everything fully levelled up or upto the Exotic shard last bubble. As important as level 32 is so is a decent set of fully upgraded weapons...

Concentrate on the IB, Light of Abyss and Hunger of Crota

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mid_gen said:
As much as I like the VoG raid weapons, they'll be little use in the hard raid if the starting mobs are level 33.

Level 32 and 331/331/331 is going be needed for the hard mode. 331 options I have :

Hard Light, Crypt Dweller SR1(scout), Time On Target (pulse)
Ice Breaker, Black Hammer, Murmur, Purifier
Gjallarhorn, One Way Ticket
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Problem I have is Ive not found a decent 331 primary weapon - loathed to use an exotic when thats better used as a secondary or heavy so rely on Fatebringer most of the time. Are any of the buyable primaries actually any good?

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Yeah I thought as much - as I've noticed little difference when as a 31 dealing with 32 enemies at the Crota cp. The Fatebringers perks seem to bridge that damage gap if you keep getting precision shots...

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Had to look at the app for my useful 331 (or near) weapons:

Primary: Suros, Vex, Hawkmoon, Monte Carlo, Thorn
Secondary: P&T, Murmur, IB, Light of Abyss, Black Hammer
Heavy: 'Horn, Truth, Hunger of Crota, Dragons Breath

Will look into a legendary primary...

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WriteThatD0wn said:
Whilst true if everyone in the group goes in with 300 rather than 331 then that -15% starts to become more of an issue as you'll almost be a whole man down DPS wise.
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Id agree if that was shooting something with a very large health bar like Atheon/Templar; but thats quite a simplistic view when shooting the average enemy as some just wont need to be shot at more and its difficult to state if any would need an additional bullet. Im sure Hive Majors might be a bit different but I personally in the CE raid tend to change to secondary for them anyway...

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Oh agreed if you have 331 weapons use them, I just havent had luck with drops and it seems the 331 weapons and how their stats/upgrades compare to 300 weapons (compare the old Vanquisher 8 with the new version) arent as great then you might get away with 300 attack dependent on the enemy you are shooting.

Doesnt seem a way I can easily remedy that - my advice is more a workaround til you can get the perfect 331 weapon (for me thats effectively a 331 VoC/Fatebringer replacement - maybe a high impact auto).

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I fully expect Crota cp sharing just to get that done each week if it is the case only that section gives you unique items you just cant get in NM. Beyond the initial challenge of just beating the whole HM I expect thats what most people will be trying to do (multiple times) til HoW is out...

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