Diane Abbott suspended as Labour MP after racism letter

Freefaller said:
Fair point. Is there such a thing as a jewish ethnicity? What makes you a jew if you're not a follower of judaism?

I guess a jew is someone born in that region over the centuries. Didn't realise they had an independent ethnicity outside of their religion.

Unfortunately that's the issue when religion becomes intertwined in culture it becomes hard to separate. You can't have a go at a group of people without being something -ist
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They are pretty hot on birth right, no? Like I have friends (I used to live in North London) who would talk openly about "real jews" and "converts". The latter were a persecuted bunch within the overall persecuted bunch :cry:
 
dLockers said:
They are pretty hot on birth right, no? Like I have friends (I used to live in North London) who would talk openly about "real jews" and "converts". The latter were a persecuted bunch within the overall persecuted bunch :cry:
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Was the same when I lived in London. Ironically as a gentile i was frequently excluded from social activities with some of them when younger, when they were old enough it disappeared so I suspect it was a parental/community thing.
 
Dis86 said:
Was the same when I lived in London. Ironically as a gentile i was frequently excluded from social activities with some of them when younger, when they were old enough it disappeared so I suspect it was a parental/community thing.
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Ah interesting - I only got involved with them in my early twenties. They were nothing but epic in terms of welcoming me. There was a big spectrum of rules adoption too - my housemate loved bacon; some of his mates used to only eat from the plate if it was covered in tin foil (as the plate had touched bacon).
 
Freefaller said:
Fair point. Is there such a thing as a jewish ethnicity? What makes you a jew if you're not a follower of judaism?

I guess a jew is someone born in that region over the centuries. Didn't realise they had an independent ethnicity outside of their religion.

Unfortunately that's the issue when religion becomes intertwined in culture it becomes hard to separate. You can't have a go at a group of people without being something -ist
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No idea. Don't care. The discussion is all just potatoes, potatoes, to me. I never understood peoples desire to stereotype and build up such hatred for others that it could literally end in murder. People are nuts. Why would they do this? No one can be, or ever should be judged in that way. Diane was just a total idiot for having the conversation in the first place. I have no sympathy for the stupid in power. They should be thrown in to the sea.
 
dLockers said:
Ah interesting - I only got involved with them in my early twenties. They were nothing but epic in terms of welcoming me. There was a big spectrum of rules adoption too - my housemate loved bacon; some of his mates used to only eat from the plate if it was covered in tin foil (as the plate had touched bacon).
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Yeah, I remember some crazy rules that my friends had.
It was always interesting however as our friendship group consisted of me (white British), a British Jew, 2nd generation Caribbean, 2nd generation Indian Hindu, 2nd generation Pakistani Muslim, a Greek and a Turkish Cypriot.
My girlfriend was Israeli.
 
Dis86 said:
Yeah, I remember some crazy rules that my friends had.
It was always interesting however as our friendship group consisted of me (white British), a British Jew, 2nd generation Caribbean, 2nd generation Indian Hindu, 2nd generation Pakistani Muslim, a Greek and a Turkish Cypriot.
My girlfriend was Israeli.
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You're practically Tony Edwards with diversity like that.
 
Dis86 said:
Yeah, I remember some crazy rules that my friends had.
It was always interesting however as our friendship group consisted of me (white British), a British Jew, 2nd generation Caribbean, 2nd generation Indian Hindu, 2nd generation Pakistani Muslim, a Greek and a Turkish Cypriot.
My girlfriend was Israeli.
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Love that. Owing to my multicultural background my friendship groups are completely bonkers and so fun as a result !
 
Freefaller said:
Fair point. Is there such a thing as a jewish ethnicity?
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Ask the Nazis?

Jews are different to other white people.

Abbott and Goldberg (not her real name) are doing a white version of when white people used to say all black people are the same, or all asian people are the same. It's ignorant and racist.
 
Freefaller said:
Love that. Owing to my multicultural background my friendship groups are completely bonkers and so fun as a result !
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It was great. What was interesting was how it changed as we got older.
Mentioned how my Jewish friends became more open but some of the others went the opposite route.
I've told the story on here before but sadly some of us found that our black friends fell in to the 'black community' and we weren't welcome. Seeing as my best friend was black it hit me really hard as I lost him. It was literally an over night thing. Went from chilling at his house one night to meeting him the next day to play football and being told I should go as his new friends didn't like white kids.

Edit: worth noting his mum was appalled by what happened. She was a fantastic woman.
 
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is all a bit crazy tbh.
not sure she deserved to be purged from teh labour party - JVL say something different and are a bit more left leaning the LFI who have a clear agenda.
 
Dis86 said:
It was great. What was interesting was how it changed as we got older.
Mentioned how my Jewish friends became more open but some of the others went the opposite route.
I've told the story on here before but sadly some of us found that our black friends fell in to the 'black community' and we weren't welcome. Seeing as my best friend was black it hit me really hard as I lost him. It was literally an over night thing. Went from chilling at his house one night to meeting him the next day to play football and being told I should go as his new friends didn't like white kids.

Edit: worth noting his mum was appalled by what happened. She was a fantastic woman.
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Tbf given that white kids are the most likely to be reprobates it makes sense they isolate from us.
 
Having the likes of Abbott doing damage for years, both to the reputation of the UK and to that, such as it is, of the Labour party is the result of willy nilly garnering of a deliberately ethnically diverse parliament with scant regard to talent or employing those with true affection for the country as a whole,

Once again I muse about, and ask here for ANY predominantly black or brown country to be cited which have any whites in their parliament equivalent, or even at a local government level.


Can anyone here at all scratch some examples up, or are we, the white British, going out of our way like lemmings over the cliff to end our own culture as fast as possible?
 
BUDFORCE said:
Contrary to everything that society is trying to ingrain in to you, it turns out, it isn't just the white British that can be racist.

I know, crazy right?
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Except it is only ever far right racists that make that claim, so why are saying such garbage?
 
Chris Wilson said:
Once again I muse about, and ask here for ANY predominantly black or brown country to be cited which have any whites in their parliament equivalent, or even at a local government level.
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Well, the right seem to think that black people outnumber white people now so...the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

;)
 
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