Who knows how long MS have been working on DX12? They might have come up with the idea last week or 2 years ago. Nothing has been said how this will come to the end users. DX11.2 might have been an addition while they were also completely re-writing DX.
I do love how it is bad news. You also say you can't be bothered with these threads any more but always join in....
Funny that, because I haven't joined in for ages... and literally minutes after my first post on Mantle in pretty much months.... both of the usual suspects reply, with daft posts.
Firstly, I didn't say DX12 was bad news, neither did I say how long they'd been working on DX12. I specifically mentioned MS's turnaround on making the API lower level and removing overhead. THey could have been working on DX12 for the past 34 years, but if they took a new direction on it 2 weeks ago and deciding to make it lower level and focus on driver overhead, then that is 2 weeks work on the newer direction. THAT was my issue with the time scale, nothing else.
DM, it was IN Hawaii. You're right though it certainly was not a launch, it was a fiasco lol. If you cared to follow DX on Twitter or anything relating to it for that matter you'd know DX12 has been in the pipe line for quite some time. Just because they're announcing it now doesn't mean it's coming soon at all.
As for making things up, you are the Drunken Master of all that is made up. May I refer you to FreeSync.
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On dx12, as above, way to misinterpret. There has been zero noise on MS attempting to leverage lower overhead or massively rework DX for lower level access AT ALL throughout the entire development of DX12. The new direction has been taken VERY recently by MS. How long DX12 has been in the works doesn't matter at all, how long MS have been working on the new parts matters very very much. I'd be far happier if MS had been intending to make something "Mantle" like from the start of DX12 development but it's pretty clear to anyone that this isn't the case, or MS wouldn't have had to announce their large change in thinking very recently. DX12 with the usual updates to DX, + bodging in last second support for low level access sounds potentially catastrophic to me, being that it's MS and they rarely do anything beyond the minimum required while also completely misjudging the market they are aiming for(think about anything they've done recently, Windows RT, nope, Windows 8, nope, Surface, failure, Xbox one, got it completely wrong).
Okay to address some things, when called out on the BS you instead talk about nothing and ignore what you made up. Why not focus on that, AMD did not focus on or only speak about Mantle, it's literally a lie, nothing else. It was in Hawaii.... did you have a point here? MANY of AMD's launches for gpus(and I can't remember if it stretches back to ATi... if it did I only ever went to see cards at a Hotel in London
) and various other events have been in Hawaii, so, trying but failing to see a point.
Secondly disaster, again no, it was a disaster according to certain people because it was a terrible launch... yet you just admitted it wasn't a launch, therefore couldn't have been a disastrous launch? Because a lot of people with an agenda called something a launch, or a disaster, does not make it so. It was an event, they launched several products, which were available straight away, and announced a card that was coming soon(which it was), then right at the end said "on, and Mantle... AMD out" dropped the microphone or more realistically, turned off the stream. Because people WANTED it to be a launch and because the cards, without any launch info, weren't available immediately people decided it wasn't a good launch. There was no disaster, just a made up social media/forum crap storm based on events that never happened.
When the cards were launched, they were available, the end.
as for referring me to freesync, please prove where I was wrong? It's still meh/negligible difference at 90fps +, no one is rushing for it, the cost is insane and freesync is on it's way(for desktop, it's available on certain laptops already of course) because Nvidia couldn't patent something as basic as variable framerate... the things I said when it was "launched", which must have been a disaster because it went very quiet for a while afterwards and missed availability dates by a huge margin did it not?
But well done for failing to address anything in my post but attempt to deflect your blatant trolling with clearly incorrect and made up information... as per usual.