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DirectX 12

Prior to 8.1, I would have agreed with you.
8.1 is literally a less cluttered Windows 7 with performance improvements, provided you set it up - and I'm not including stuff like StartIsBack. I was able to disable all of the touch/corner gesture features within minutes of installing the OS. The new context menu on the start button, which provides shortcuts to just about everything is brilliant IMO.


soz4derail

less cluttered??

bunch of tosh - have you not seen the "start menu", squares all over the place...The only good thing 8.1 has over 7 is that you can shortcut some system programs....

BUT THIS IS ONLY HELPFUL TO THOSE THAT USE THEM

the majority of "normal" users would find it more cluttered and more confusing to find everything they need.

You have to spend ages setting settings that no one of average computer use will ever find and putting short cuts all over the place to make it more user friendly...Why MS didnt make a proper desktop version instead of putting hidden settings all over the place and get rid of the stupid tablet style start menu i will never know...

anyway back on topic

I feel AMD just don't get that they aren't leading the industry. They can't change the big monopoly company's from their path without some serious $$$ for them to do so.

Mantle is obviously purely an AMD product use and since they don't have the support of MS like Nvidia has then it's not going to go mainstream...

...Whether or not the current mantle produces some extra FPS
 
My GF's Dad still can't use Mantle on the same IQ he does DirectX without it spiking all over the place in BF4, so for him, it's certainly shot to bits in comparison to my smooth sailing with my R9 290 :p
 
Dices implementation of frame pacing is bugged so needs to be disabled for now.

P.S this "shot to bits" is also true for single gfx setups.

I'm leaning towards if you have one of the 7 series refresh/renames (270X/280X) then you may as well stick to DX.
 
P.S this "shot to bits" is also true for single gfx setups.

I'm leaning towards if you have one of the 7 series refresh/renames (270X/280X) then you may as well stick to DX.

Not disputing your issues but plenty of people are using it fine now since the patches and with disabling this frame pacing. Mybrains (think he owns a single 7950) reported similar and disabling the frame pacing fixed it for him afaik.
 
Thanks again guys ^^^ :)

Not just BF4, Thief too is shot to bits.

I have a 2GB Tahiti LE, i can't see any change since the patch, its as good as ever.

'ever' also being that 2GB vRam isn't enough to run it on Ultra, at least not Ultra Texture Quality or any MSAA, the vRam soon hits the 2GB buffers and begins to stutter.

If you keep it at or below these settings its perfect, ordinarily with 2GB cards, like a Pitcairn 7870 / R9 270X you wouldn't want to run higher setting than that anyway if you want to maintain 60+ FPS.

 
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Thought frame pacing was meant to be the be all - end all in Mantle ;)

Its really not needed in Mantle but nonetheless Dice are trying to implement it. They have it working, the rendering lines are so thin now, the problem is its not working properly as it causes a rather regular stutter/cpu spike. Disable it and it remains as smooth but fps shoots up a bit higher so still work to be done it seems. The amazing thing is, obviously Mantle is running smoothly without any sort of frame time management and it still provides considerably lower/tighter frame times than DX.
 
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