Discussion On The ATI Radeon 5*** Series Before They Have Been Released Thread

[LoadsaMoney]

You never know, they may announce a date that they can actually hard launch them.

Showing cards already id say is a good sign though.

 

[fornowagain]

What this eh?

Sorry if its a repost.

 

[Stryda09]

3dMark says its a 4870x2 if you look at one of the other pictures for the benchmark. The photos of the card in a case are the 5 series the scores aren't as far as I can understand.

 

[fornowagain]

The id just comes from bios, doesn't mean much. Scores are mental high for a single X2 and that's for sure not an X2 backplate.

38K?

Just to give you some reference. 2 x 4890@1000/1150 + 955@5538mhz ~ 30K



4870X2@840/1000 + 955@5700mhz ~ 28.6K



2 x 4870X2@750/900 + 955@6470mhz ~ 37.3K

 

[Tom|Nbk]

Damn.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Arent ATI cards always better at 3d mark anyway?

 

[SKILL]

Even if the ATi was 'better' than nvidia at 3dmark for whatever reason the comparisons shown by fornowagain are against ati cards, and quad 4870's is a little bit slower when running a 6.5GHz processor

If that's a 'real' screenshot of a reasonable system with a 5870 (or 90?) then that's awesome, now I want it even more...

EDIT: Just actually clicked the link and seen the 6.6GHz cpu, not quite a reasonable system but still impressive

 

[Stonedofmoo]

Terrific news. What I want is not the top models, but a quality midrange card similar to the HD4770, but a little faster and with 1Gb RAM.

Looks like AMD will be getting my order shortly

 

[Ease]

The id just comes from bios, doesn't mean much. Scores are mental high for a single X2 and that's for sure not an X2 backplate.

38K?

Just to give you some reference. 2 x 4890@1000/1150 + 955@5538mhz ~ 30K



4870X2@840/1000 + 955@5700mhz ~ 28.6K



2 x 4870X2@750/900 + 955@6470mhz ~ 37.3K

It also shows a Phenom II x4 at 6.6GHz... not sure how reliable those screenshots are...

 

[ray liotta]

Price is my worry, as i need a whole gaming rig. Some of you reckon they will be same price as the HD 4870 & 4890 range? I hope so! I coud accept a £50 increase but no more. PLus getting a rig with Windows 7 will cost a few pound extra at first im guessing.

For example a rig with following cost around £980-£1100 depending on where you bought from online...

I7 core 920
6gb ram
1tb hard drive
vista 64 bit
hd 4890

Now with these custom/pre built gaming rigs, my worry is they will shaft us people needing one by lodding a few extra hundred on top. So i would want somehting like this

I7 core 920
6gb ram
1tb hard drive
windows 7
one of new ati cards

got feeling that will come in around £1300

Hope not or will be holding out till prices drop.

Do a good deal overclockers please

 

[SKILL]

It also shows a Phenom II x4 at 6.6GHz... not sure how reliable those screenshots are...

Gotta love Liquid Nitrogen, and hand-picked chips

 

[wolvers]

Is that a 4 slot card?!

 

[mrk]

No...lol, those are blanking plates top and bottom.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

Might actually be time to say goodbye to the trustworthy 8800GTX

 

[RizlaKing]

Nice furmark score anyway seems better then a 4870X2 so if thats a plain 5870 then i am really looking forward to the X2 version .

 

[tdream]

3dmark is synthetic bullcrap benchmark created to sell graphic cards. Puts waay too much emphasis on the cpu, as most of you know offers very little in games. Quad core scores double dual core even though they are the same performance in games, octo core will skew the results even more.

 

[wolvers]

No...lol, those are blanking plates top and bottom.

yeah, I knew that!







just checkin

 

[Squakingcow]

That 3dmark score was achieved with 4870x2s (as visible from the other screen shots from the original post on tpu) and has nothing to do with ATi's new DX11 cards.

 

[Final8y]

RV870 is the biggest change since R600

Obama chip

ATI’s CTO (Chief Technology Officer) for graphics, Eric Demers has confirmed that the chip that they call Evergreen, DX11 is the biggest conceptual chance since the time ATI has introduced rather unsuccessful R600. R600 is the last core change in ATI's GPU design.


The RV770 can be seen as R600 done right, with lower power consumption, smaller transistors and a brand new GDDR5 memory controller, but it was not built from the ground up. At the same time, RV870 should be a huge leap forward in ATI’s chip design compared to R600, RV770, Eric confirms.

This is why ATI has high hopes for its Evergreen DirectX 11, something that we keep calling RV870 and naturally from outside, the card will look like advanced version of RV770 with DirectX 11 support. As U.S. President USA Obama is all about change, we've decided to link the RV870 and the presidential "change" promises. We expect a lot from both.

As we still don’t know many details about the final spec of the chip, we might be surprised about internal architecture. All in all, if it performs well, we should be happy about it.

Fudge

 

[Dark_Angel]

3dmark is synthetic bullcrap benchmark created to sell graphic cards. Puts waay too much emphasis on the cpu, as most of you know offers very little in games. Quad core scores double dual core even though they are the same performance in games, octo core will skew the results even more.

Supreme Commander, GTA4. Unreal, Crysis and other games /wave

On a serious note however - you can't use them as a life like performance - but what you can do is use them as a rough gauge to how two cards on similar system perform against each other.

Of course, the one problem is that each card maker has a habbit of releasing drivers which... "improve" the performance on the benchmark software.

I will be more interested in seeing how Crysis and other games run.