Doctor Who

Shamikebab · 20 Jun 2010 at 17:53

fini said:
Someone was building a TARDIS in The Lodger so it must somehow be possible.

I thought an existing tardis was trying to repair itself then?

arknor · 20 Jun 2010 at 17:56

Raikiri said:
Except he keeps dying and regenerating, so that wouldn't really work...

no he doesnt or all the timelords would live forever they dont

fini · 20 Jun 2010 at 17:57

Shamikebab said:
I thought an existing tardis was trying to repair itself then?

The Doctor said in the episode that it was 'someone's attempt at building a TARDIS'. It was borked (needing a pilot), but that is a separate issue and likely simply a plot device for that episode.

Amp34 · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:01

fini said:
Someone was building a TARDIS in The Lodger so it must somehow be possible.

I didn't think that was actually a TARDIS though, it was just a time machine was it not? I thought he said it was a time machine not a TARDIS. Probably missed the important part though (think i'll go download that episode and watch it again...).

fini said:
Yes, I agree this is the weakest part of my theory. Loads of TARDIS were destroyed in the Time War though (before it was time-locked), were they not? They didn't kill everyone. There must be a way to destroy a TARDIS without killing everyone.

I don't understand that either. It must be a certain way TARDISes are destoyed, I guess a bit like nuclear subs etc, most of the time they just blow up, but maybe other times they cause chaos. You'd expect it to have happened before thoug. :confused:

fini said:
There's talk of him running past a window in the first episode.

Ah, think I remember something like that. I'll watch it again and see.

fini said:
The first time we have seen him meet her, yes. The problem was that he didn't actually look that raggedy, did he - thus partly why I think the raggedy comment actually comes from when she helped him out of the pandorica - from which I'm guessing he'd look quite raggedy (2000 years will do that to you).

I actually can't remember the ins and outs, all I remember is him landing in the garden wearing a tennans clothes, not his new clothes (the clothes he was put in the Pandorica with).

fini · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:01

arknor said:
no he doesnt or all the timelords would live forever they dont

Can, worms, everywhere.

There was a limit on regenerations, but that was imposed by the Time Lords themselves wasn't it? Something to do with trying to keep their population in check IIRC. There aren't any Time Lords around to stop him from continually regenerating now are there - or maybe it's not that simple?

For the sake of the series - and realising that we're now very close to the regeneration limit - I think we can assume that the limit either now no longer applies or there'll be a way around it.

Creelers · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:08

Tombstone said:
Well she doesn't appear to have a family, the doctor did say her life doesn't make sense, which it doesn't. A little girl, living by herself with no adults, in a big house, with books which seem to be relevant to events in the future. Who has no memory of the daleks etc, when she should have, maybe because up until the moment the doctor arrived she didn't exist? Hell it seems that she isn't human and/or didn't actually exist. Seems that she is in some form, a construct, for some purpose. She will probably turn out to be a timelord who has forgotten they are a timelord, who will survive being "killed" by machine-rory due to not being human.

Amy is the Doctor's daughter

That would be a cool twist!

Tombstone · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:09

fini said:
For the sake of the series - and realising that we're now very close to the regeneration limit - I think we can assume that the limit either now no longer applies or there'll be a way around it.

This.

When they first started Dr Who all those decades ago the whole regeneration thing probably never took into account that the show would last as long as it has or have as many actors playing the role. In order to the show to not just end they will of course need to either find a way around it or just hope that people forget theres a limit.

Tombstone · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:09

Creelers said:
Amy is the Doctor's daughter That would be a cool twist!

Ewww...that would make the whole coming onto him and snogging him all the more yucky

Pigeon_Killer · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:10

She's hot so from his point of view it would be perfectly acceptable.

Tombstone · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:12

Pigeon_Killer said:
She's hot so from his point of view it would be perfectly acceptable.

That would depend if he found her hot

(personally I dont, so maybe he doesnt either)

Creelers · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:15

Tombstone said:
Ewww...that would make the whole coming onto him and snogging him all the more yucky

And funnier

Tombstone said:
That would depend if he found her hot (personally I dont, so maybe he doesnt either)

Madness

Tombstone · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:17

Creelers said:
Madness

Hehe, she doesn't really fit my tastes, too tall for my liking, too skinny, not curvey enough, young enough to be my daughter and her acting appears to just about manage to stretch to pouting and widening her eyes. Different tastes for everyone of course, but she does nothing for me.

Creelers · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:20

Tombstone said:
Hehe, she doesn't really fit my tastes, too tall for my liking, too skinny, not curvey enough, young enough to be my daughter and her acting appears to just about manage to stretch to pouting and widening her eyes. Different tastes for everyone of course, but she does nothing for me.

The young enough to be my daughter would turn her off for me.

fini · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:45

Also, look what's on his arm.

MeatLoaf · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:53

fini said:
OK, the adventure games are based after this series and feature both the Doctor and Amy so both must survive. Indeed, I think its generally agreed that Amy will rescue the Doctor. River will, of course, survive by using her time vortex band thing to get out of the Tardis.

So we have the problem of the cracks in time (caused by the Tardis exploding) and how the Doctor actually gets out of the Tardis.

Remember the 'raggedy doctor' - did you notice that the Doctor wasn't actually raggedy when he first met Amy? I think Amy will rescue the Doctor as a child. She'll find the pandorica in a museum and will open it there. He will look raggedy because he's been there for the past two thousand odd years. At that point the Doctor will go about setting up all the actions so that they happen as set so that he can be rescued by Amy at the point that he is (bit of a time-loop).

<prepares to be proved hugely wrong>

I think youre mostly correct but the raggedy doctor bit comes from the fact young amy met him just after hed regenerated and was still wearing 10s torn up costume. Even tho when young amy rescues him hes been there for 2000+ years id bet from the docs point of view its only been moments since he was locked up.

I think amy as we know her will stay dead. As will Rory. Karen and Matt are confirmed for next year so i think somehow young amy will grow up differently from what she did and will be known as ameila from then on. Strange yeah i know but timey wimey wibbly wobbly lol.

Theres also the things in the series that have seemed strange, like the message amy recorded for herself in the 2nd episode on the UK starship, the fact that the scene in Flesh and Stone where the doctor appeared back with his tweed jacket on despite having it nicked by the angels. He also says to amy remember what i told you when you were 7. Well so far hes not told her anything.

For me the best bit of the episode was the bit where the cyber head burst open to reveal the skull!

And the regen limit is apparently going to be addressed in the upcoming sarah jane adventures episode that the doctor appears in.

Dark_Angel · 20 Jun 2010 at 18:53

Okay... I've got a few questions.

I've never watched the show, but considering giving it a shot.

Is it good (I like typically stuff like Stargate, BSG and the like) and are there Daleks?

Tombstone · 20 Jun 2010 at 19:10

Dark_Angel said:
Okay... I've got a few questions.

I've never watched the show, but considering giving it a shot.

Is it good (I like typically stuff like Stargate, BSG and the like) and are there Daleks?

Go ahead, give it a go. What's the worst that can happen?

It's not a patch on stargate or bsg and doesn't come anywhere close to Babylon 5 or firefly , but then it wouldn't as its got a smaller budget and has to appeal to children as well.

Dark_Angel · 20 Jun 2010 at 19:29

True... guess I can give a few episodes on Iplayer a go.

Amp34 · 20 Jun 2010 at 19:30

fini said:
Also, look what's on his arm.

What episode is that from? Or is it a "spoiler"?

Tombstone said:
Go ahead, give it a go. What's the worst that can happen?

It's not a patch on stargate or bsg and doesn't come anywhere close to Babylon 5 or firefly , but then it wouldn't as its got a smaller budget and has to appeal to children as well.

It's nothing like any of those shows though so it's all good. It's a mix of comedy and a bit of Sci Fi, not the very serious style Sci fi of those listed.

Kainz · 20 Jun 2010 at 19:43

Quick question. When River was trapped in the Tardis, which was spinning wildly out of control, a voice boomed out saying "silence will fall" - what on earth was that about? Whose eerie voice was that? Very puzzled about that bit.