Doctor Who
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Not to mention the mods are heavy handed in deleting posts that are negative on there, like a certain thread on this very forum that is stuffing the same way *cough*Acolyte*cough*
It created a lop sided view of everything and restricts freedom of expression.
Don
If you've got an issue then post in the Forum Content Discussion section, rather than having thinly veiled digs
Soldato
They need to have at least one story in there with traditional Doctor enemies (Daleks, Silurians, Sea devils etc.). Cut the diversity/inclusivity and emotional BS (Peter Davidson never cried when Adric got splatted in Earthshock, in fact IIRC he told the remaining two companions to pull themselves together) and let's see if the new cast can actually act. Just a good old fashioned light sci-fi action tale with a bit of humour, asexual and avoiding any sort of current political commentary too.
IMHO that's what it needs to save Ncuti's tenure and ultimately the show.
IMHO that's what it needs to save Ncuti's tenure and ultimately the show.
Soldato
This (kind of) . It needs a mixture of old and new villains. I thought bringing back the Toymaker then bringing in the Maestro as its offspring was pretty good.
Space Babies now up to 5.6 million viewers after 28 days update.
Rogue was also the most watched show on Saturday on the BBC. Again less people watching TV so the viewing number really don't matter. The Beeb are happy with how the show is doing.
You may stick to you, oh no its got lowest numbers ever but in truth it's still one of the most popular shows on UK TV. This year's BGT got about have the number it used to get. Not limited to Who. TV habits have changed.
Rogue was also the most watched show on Saturday on the BBC. Again less people watching TV so the viewing number really don't matter. The Beeb are happy with how the show is doing.
You may stick to you, oh no its got lowest numbers ever but in truth it's still one of the most popular shows on UK TV. This year's BGT got about have the number it used to get. Not limited to Who. TV habits have changed.
I was and remain a big fan of Tenant as doctor who, I think the series pinnacle was the ongoing doctor and Rose tyler storyline.
Wasn't overwhelmed by Matt smith as the doctor, but he had his moments for sure.
Jodie whitaker as doctor who, I just couldn't get into, and I'm pretty sure it was zero to do with her being a she. I reckon if any long running storyline could change its lead character from Man to woman, Dr who could do it (by the way, absolutely hats off to whoever came up with the regeneration thing, what I wonderful believable way of allowing your shows main star to change forever, it must be the single best "gimmick" ever in TV/films).
But I just did not like the way she portrayed the doctor, and in the first episode when I heard her accent, I was sure it was just something she was putting on as part of a funny introduction. Did not grab me at all, never saw another episode bascially because I had been turned off. Could you imagine what someone with the acting chops of say a younger signory weaver Ripley could have brought to a female Dr who ? Whitaker just seemed too lightweight for the role, but I actually don't know how well it was received as I lost interest.
I don't do the anti-woke thing as a rule, but everything I've heard about this new Dr has put me right off. Again, I guess no other show is ripe for legitimately re-inventing the sexuality of its main star via regeneration, but it just seems from all I've read, that it is turning Dr Who into little more than a vehicle to push an agenda. I liked Dr who when the agenda was fundamentally moral good v evil, but this new direction has alienated me.
Wasn't overwhelmed by Matt smith as the doctor, but he had his moments for sure.
Jodie whitaker as doctor who, I just couldn't get into, and I'm pretty sure it was zero to do with her being a she. I reckon if any long running storyline could change its lead character from Man to woman, Dr who could do it (by the way, absolutely hats off to whoever came up with the regeneration thing, what I wonderful believable way of allowing your shows main star to change forever, it must be the single best "gimmick" ever in TV/films).
But I just did not like the way she portrayed the doctor, and in the first episode when I heard her accent, I was sure it was just something she was putting on as part of a funny introduction. Did not grab me at all, never saw another episode bascially because I had been turned off. Could you imagine what someone with the acting chops of say a younger signory weaver Ripley could have brought to a female Dr who ? Whitaker just seemed too lightweight for the role, but I actually don't know how well it was received as I lost interest.
I don't do the anti-woke thing as a rule, but everything I've heard about this new Dr has put me right off. Again, I guess no other show is ripe for legitimately re-inventing the sexuality of its main star via regeneration, but it just seems from all I've read, that it is turning Dr Who into little more than a vehicle to push an agenda. I liked Dr who when the agenda was fundamentally moral good v evil, but this new direction has alienated me.
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If the BBC are happy with this show, there is no saving them. People are cancelling the licence faster than they can keep up with and they are doing nothing to keep people interested.
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Well they must being doing something right then as Dot and Bubble was the most watched programme on TV that day. No other show managed over 3 million viewers. The top 5 programmes that day were all BBC shows too. The TV landscape really has changed now the days of 8+ million viewers is pretty much over.
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Over now to our Doctor Who correspondent - Steve Coping-Hard.
Alright, I got bored a few nights ago and watched some of it.
There is a lot of wokery in it. Storylines are paper thin.
Ultimately I feel the shows weren’t really catered for grow up audience. It’s juvenile, non-sensical, not serious, lack tho dark truly adversarial moments. I feel that 11yr olds would enjoy it a lot as there is a lot of chit chatting and jumping up and down etc etc like exacted pre-teens.
It’s not utter crap but it’s close.
They trying to bring back the magic of Rose, Captain Jack Harkness esk characters in cameo fashion. Just failing pretty hard.
I thought I would find Jinkx Monsoon very annoying. But he/she performance is actually decent and probably stand out moments of the show so far. The character deserved more screen time and a story arc itself.
Will I watch more, probably just fast skip to the end to close the story arc. Yes there is a story arc apparently. I reckon it will be some shocking bad one.
There is a lot of wokery in it. Storylines are paper thin.
Ultimately I feel the shows weren’t really catered for grow up audience. It’s juvenile, non-sensical, not serious, lack tho dark truly adversarial moments. I feel that 11yr olds would enjoy it a lot as there is a lot of chit chatting and jumping up and down etc etc like exacted pre-teens.
It’s not utter crap but it’s close.
They trying to bring back the magic of Rose, Captain Jack Harkness esk characters in cameo fashion. Just failing pretty hard.
I thought I would find Jinkx Monsoon very annoying. But he/she performance is actually decent and probably stand out moments of the show so far. The character deserved more screen time and a story arc itself.
Will I watch more, probably just fast skip to the end to close the story arc. Yes there is a story arc apparently. I reckon it will be some shocking bad one.
Soldato
I suspect a lot of people (like ourselves) will just be watching it now...
1. In the probably vain hope it gets better.
2. To see how much lower the BBC and writers/producers can sink.
The real test will probably come if they put it out on DVD/Blu-ray/4K subsequently, how poorly that sells.
1. In the probably vain hope it gets better.
2. To see how much lower the BBC and writers/producers can sink.
The real test will probably come if they put it out on DVD/Blu-ray/4K subsequently, how poorly that sells.
Blu Ray and DVDs are already up for pre order. Steel book as well. Think it's 12 August.
As for story arc it's apparently something stored at UNIT from the third doctor era.
Then Ruby's mystery, who she is, where she came from and who her mum is. Why see seems to be able to make it snow.
There is also that Mrs Flood and the actress Susan Twist that popped up in Wild Blu Yonder and then every episode from Christmas onward.
Two part finale starts this week.
As for story arc it's apparently something stored at UNIT from the third doctor era.
Then Ruby's mystery, who she is, where she came from and who her mum is. Why see seems to be able to make it snow.
There is also that Mrs Flood and the actress Susan Twist that popped up in Wild Blu Yonder and then every episode from Christmas onward.
Two part finale starts this week.
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Morbid curiosity here, I checked out once capaldi was done. His run had its issues, but overall I enjoyed it some really good episodes.
That was when it stopped being doctor who to me and just a vehicle for the message.
Jodie didn't happen, retconing it as a bad fan fiction. Zero redeemable features and introduced the timeless child which is just spitting on the lore, history and the meaning behind what the doctor stands for and to perverse what the character is. Was hoping they where going to completely ignore it or some kind of Master trick but never mind.
Ncuti is still early in his role, but it's not good, he doesn't feel like the doctor, just feels like his sex education character, over the top and childish. Still hoping he gets one good episode. The best episode so far was the one he was barely in due to schedule conflicts. There's time for him, but the BBC have a message to push which intrudes on good story telling.
All the others (before Jodie) settled in fairly quickly to the role, Matt Smith probably took the most time, a young lad playing an old man tired regeneration, but he nailed it specially in certain episodes. Talking reboot forward here, original who is it's own beast and classic British tv.
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The ratings are absolutely appalling and even RTD has admitted they're not what he had hoped. And the reason they are so unbelievably bad is because in context it's a show with huge fan-base built on near 60 yerars of TV. Where are those people? they're not watching anymore because Doctor Who is terrible, and completely died with The Timless Children. Nothing from Jodie Whittaker onwards is canon, and outside of the coping-harders who will seal-clap anything Who, the vast majority of fans have moved on, or just gone back to watching proper Who.
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Caporegime
Perhaps you can do the same and leave the thread then.