Poll: Does David Moyes need to go? **Spoilers**

MoyesIN or MoyesOUT?


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Long standing Utd fan here. First matches was under Big Fat Ron and his amazing suits. Of course all the Scouse, Blue Noses' Lids Yewnited and other ABU's will be saying Moyes must stay as things will only get progressively worse as we did under Dogleash, Benitez, 10 a penny manager who was at Spurs for four weeks etc. We have had our day in the sun and of course the press are going to take advantage of this as will opposing fans

Should Moyes be given more time ?

Yes he should be given more time and a little bit of perspective is needed. Professional Football is a unique bubble. You get plucked out of the real world at the age of 8 maybe 9 and then get thrown back in when your 35-40 if you are lucky with pretty much limited social skills and more importantly real world experience.

Pretty much everything went through SAF from managing the players (Kicking up the arse or putting the arm around the shoulder) Being told daily how important they are, Training at certain times, training in a certain way, Speaking to the media in a certain way and all of a sudden thats been turned upside down. The people they would goto if they had a problem with SAF are probably not at the club anymore.

I would liken it to anyone elses daily routine. You work 9-5 wear a suit have lunch at 12 - 13 and you know what you can get away with. Your new boss wants you to work 5-9, take Weds and Thursday off and work weekends, lunch break is at a different time.

The players are hard wired to work, think, eat, train, play in a different way that what David Moyes wants them to. Essentially bar Mata and Fellaini it's still Fergies team.

Major Surgery has been needed for years not just now

The key position for any team is Midfield nowadays. Go back ten maybe fifteen years and the most prized asset on the transfer market was the old number 9 who would bag 20 goals a season plus. Its no secret that our midfield in some parts has over performed (Carrick) but more importantly not been strengthened when its been needed the most. It's the engine room that allows your top three or four attackers depending on formation to perform. Look at Chelsea on Monday night. Absolutely dominated Citys midfield. While you can argue that Moyes and Woodward could have done better in the summer, some of the blame has to go back to SAF for not strengthening with a decent CM a few years back to take some of the strain and pressure off Carrick.

While we are at it, some players have just not developed as they should have done, Cleverly and Smalling spring to mind.

All in all Moyes should be allowed to build a team and then it's fair to judge. You look at the Mata transfer and you can see as clear as day the thought process behind it. A player who can retain the ball, play in numerous positions up front. Has one of the highest pass completion ratios, he can speak perfect English, hes humble. He could play in the number 10 role if Rooney did go in the summer. No manager has the right to make the perfect signing and get it right every time. Just ask Jose when he resigned Matic ;) But I like what he has done with the Mata deal

Building a team is not about who you bring in, it's also sometimes about who and how you manage the old guard out.
 
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How many of these are actually rival supporters?

Psycho Sonny, who is it you support exactly that's a rival to United?

Take out the Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Man City fans and what you are left with is bitter fans of other clubs :) The same goes for the 'Man Utd fans' I've never seen most of them!
 
Well there isn't a sarcastic 'keep him, genius at work' for fans who don't particularly like United, I'd want that option if this was going on at somewhere like real madrid as I just don't particularly like the club in any way.

Reading the thread is probably better than the actual poll, as like you said I've barely seen half of those people or they show up once in a blue moon when their team wins the champions league or something.

I'm more surprised at looking at some peoples ages and seeing how childish and bitter they can be, I sure hope I grow out of it.
 
Well there isn't a sarcastic 'keep him, genius at work' for fans who don't particularly like United, I'd want that option if this was going on at somewhere like real madrid as I just don't particularly like the club in any way.

Reading the thread is probably better than the actual poll, as like you said I've barely seen half of those people or they show up once in a blue moon when their team wins the champions league or something.

I'm more surprised at looking at some peoples ages and seeing how childish and bitter they can be, I sure hope I grow out of it.

It's more understandable with real Madrid though they are/were virtually illegally funded and just bought up the best players in the world because if it..

UTD aren't anywhere near that bad.
 
It's more understandable with real Madrid though they are/were virtually illegally funded and just bought up the best players in the world because if it..

UTD aren't anywhere near that bad.

I agree its easier to hate Madrid as a neutral, but you can find reasons to dislike most clubs to be honest.
 
Pretty obvious which way this **** would vote then -

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The same goes for the 'Man Utd fans' I've never seen most of them!

31:36 with the Man U fans:

Man Utd fan - Sack him
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Man Utd fan - Give him more time
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Not made your mind up yet?
 
I've tried to stay away from the thread tbh because I will just start arguing with fair weather fans and people that have only started watching football within the last few years :)
 
Pretty obvious which way this **** would vote then -

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Is that for real? I don't use twitter and have no idea if that's his real account. If it is what an utter ****. We know what his intentions are, he's always been a thick **** but he should be a thick **** that never plays again for united.
 
So anyone not at Utd can ask that question and have everyone think Norwich/West Ham, but because he plays for Utd he's definitely referencing Moyes? Pretty much every time a manager gets fired this forum asks who's next.
 
I've tried to stay away from the thread tbh because I will just start arguing with fair weather fans and people that have only started watching football within the last few years :)

Casting a vote doesn't mean that you have to argue. I guess that after 33 years you don't care either way?
 
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