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If you're a minor make sure you eat an apple a day.
I dunno, lets play Devil's Prosecutor (I know it's not a thing but I'm pretty sure everyone will understand what I mean).
Let's say hypothetically it's all true and it's as bad as the ex Twitter dude says, it means Twitch uncovered evidence of a statutory crime, and rather than go to the authorities they didn't just fail to report it (something I believe is a legal requirement in the USA) they actively covered it up.
Now I have no difficulty believing a megacorp would do something shady in order to avoid damaging it's reputation, but if it's all true this was guaranteed to leak at some point in time and it means far more reputational damage (plus possible legal liability).
Admitting you found one of your biggest stars is a paedo and you fired him over it it and reported it to the authorities is not great PR wise but it's not terrifying as you did the right thing. However having it leak that you found one of your biggest stars is a paedo and then quietly shuffled him out the door so he could do it somewhere else and failed to notify the authorities, then got sued by him because he knew you wouldn't want it to come out, and you then settled for millions and millions of dollars in exchange for his signing an NDA therefore making you legally complicit in the cover up, is corporate suicide.
That's why I have a hard time buying into the accusations being thrown about (so far, unless I missed it, by one dude who hates the guy in question).
Obviously it is possible it's all true, but improbably, though that doesn't mean some of it can't be true.
But then again it could also be possible that the dude was chatting with a novice female streamer about paid business services (something normal for big streamers) and flirted a bit because he didn't know her age, then Twitch (who would know her age as they can access her profile) used that as an excuse to get rid of him like they wanted too, then he sued them because they not only got it wrong but found out about it by illegally monitoring his DMs, then they settled out of court and his multimillion payoff was tied to an NDA so nobody would find out how hard Twitch messed up.
At this stage we have no idea what part of the rumours/conjecture is true. Honestly it would really help at this point if they authorities just said "this all looks suss, lets investigate".
Cody Conners said:He got banned because got caught sexting a minor in the then existing Twitch whispers product. He was trying to meet up with her at TwitchCon.
Bloomberg said:three people with knowledge of the matter said Beahm was removed because he exchanged sexually explicit messages with a minor through the service’s direct chat feature. He also asked a minor about her plans at the TwitchCon convention, according to two of the people, who asked not to be identified discussing such a sensitive matter. A complaint was later filed with Twitch through its reporting system, the two said.
That's actually a felony in California (where he lives).Doubt there's a statutory crime for sending dirty messages to a minor even if, as Rolling Stone heard, he was fully aware that she was a minor.
it amazes me people make donations to millionaires, who then flaunt the wealth or waste it on crap.He's made enough money over the years that I'm sure he just doesn't care any more. It always amazes me that these people just get greedy and continue to try to make even more money rather than just retire with whatever millions they've already raked in.
i genuinely think people enjoy it.. unfortunately a trend set by the media and copied by the general public. the only difference being the media do it for money and what do the general public get out of it?Everything aside, is there anyone else massively disturbed by how easily many people are punished by having their lives decimated on the Internet without even a sniff of a criminal charge?
We all should be, this isn't the best way to deal with these things imo.
this has all sorts of implciations from twitch verification system, to MrD not reporting a minor affiliate.*EDIT*
I've just noticed an inaccuracy in my original post, in the hypothetical where he didn't know her age but Twitch did as they can access her profile, that doesn't actually work as she was a Twitch affiliate which means she must have told them she was 18 or older, so if DrD was aware of her real age it it must have been from DMs which would presumably have been where Twitch learned of it. If they were spying on his DMs though that may well be linked to why this was all buried in the first place.
my issues with this is its coming out now after 4+years ago with lots happeneing inbetween take covid as example, were sexting and explicit content would have been flying about the internet during lockdowns at a much higher rate than normall as people are house bound.Dr Disrespect Knowingly Sent Explicit Messages to a Minor, Former Twitch Employee Says
Streamer Dr Disrespect was banned from Twitch in 2020 over inappropriate texts he sent to a girl even after learning she was underagewww.rollingstone.com
Paywalled article but an important one. Some key quotes in there.
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A former Twitch trust and safety employee, who worked for the platform at the time Beahm was banned and has direct knowledge of the matter, confirmed to Rolling Stone that Beahm continued to send sexually graphic messages to a minor he knew to be underage. This former employee, who requested anonymity to avoid jeopardizing their career, also said that crucial elements of Beahm’s latest defensive tweet are inaccurate.
“I recall that Dr Disrespect was made aware by the individual that they were underage during the conversation, after which he indicated that this was no problem and continued on,” the former employee says. “There was no confusion. Messages sent after this was acknowledged were no less graphic and in sexually explicit nature than before, and I think more than the categorization of ‘leaning too much in the direction of being inappropriate’ might indicate.”
The ex-Twitch employee has also provided Rolling Stone a more detailed account of internal conversations at Twitch following the report of Beahm’s messages and his subsequent ban. They say the details of Beahm’s case are coming out because of Conners’ explosive tweet last week. “Cody definitely got the ball rolling. Me and many of my former colleagues are only comfortable speaking up now because of it. Our priority is always to the safety of the [alleged] victim and to keep their identity secret,” they said.
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that would be standard business practice regardless. its bad publicity and they dont want to be seen supporting anything illegal or criminal.The YouTube monetization features on his channel have now been disabled too.
i find this a but narrow.It always amazes me that these people just get greedy and continue to try to make even more money rather than just retire with whatever millions they've already raked in.
Now he has massive legal bills to settle lol no doubt.
the general public get the feeling they are right and just in their thinking, that they have power to make a differantce, they have the power over other people, they can defame and destroy other people?i genuinely think people enjoy it.. unfortunately a trend set by the media and copied by the general public. the only difference being the media do it for money and what do the general public get out of it?
actually really good points.the general public get the feeling they are right and just in their thinking, that they have power to make a differantce, they have the power over other people, they can defame and destroy other people?
there are certainly people that do get off on detroying and controlling others, making the lives of other people a living hell because they can and have nothing better to do, becuase they are always "right"?
this thread is actually a good case study for people behaviour.
to me he's talking in general across every issue that occurs, not specifically about people accused of sexting minors etc..This is how it’s always been, the outreach has just changed. In the past it was the village nonce who was ostracised for his behaviour. When you have a global outreach of millions, the village gets a lot bigger……
my issues with this is its coming out now after 4+years ago with lots happeneing inbetween take covid as example, were sexting and explicit content would have been flying about the internet during lockdowns at a much higher rate than normall as people are house bound.
and the person in question "trust and safety employee" would have seen this sort of thing countless time i believe if they are content moderators advisors. its easy for cases to mesh togeather.
what we remember happening changes as time passes and what we here both at that time by other and in current affares. for most people.
Lets assume this is true. How is this not a criminal case? Why are the police not involved? Forget the court of public opinion and get the real courts involved ASAP. It's so surprsing how nonchalant people seem to be when they believe a serious crime has taken place.A former Twitch trust and safety employee, who worked for the platform at the time Beahm was banned and has direct knowledge of the matter, confirmed to Rolling Stone that Beahm continued to send sexually graphic messages to a minor he knew to be underage. This former employee, who requested anonymity to avoid jeopardizing their career, also said that crucial elements of Beahm’s latest defensive tweet are inaccurate.
“I recall that Dr Disrespect was made aware by the individual that they were underage during the conversation, after which he indicated that this was no problem and continued on,” the former employee says. “There was no confusion. Messages sent after this was acknowledged were no less graphic and in sexually explicit nature than before, and I think more than the categorization of ‘leaning too much in the direction of being inappropriate’ might indicate.”
They wanted to protect the victim by allowing Dr Disrespect to go scott free and make more victims. Excellent logic right there.The ex-Twitch employee has also provided Rolling Stone a more detailed account of internal conversations at Twitch following the report of Beahm’s messages and his subsequent ban. They say the details of Beahm’s case are coming out because of Conners’ explosive tweet last week. “Cody definitely got the ball rolling. Me and many of my former colleagues are only comfortable speaking up now because of it. Our priority is always to the safety of the [alleged] victim and to keep their identity secret,” they said.
isnt that whats happened for the last 100 years? no large corporation cares about anything other than lining its pockets, what makes you think they care about the public?I'm truly shocked that a large corporation has seemingly done what's best to protect their brand rather than do what's best for the public.
If they didn't care then why do they always release such sincere apology videos.isnt that whats happened for the last 100 years? no large corporation cares about anything other than lining its pockets, what makes you think they care about the public?
not at all.trying everything you can to dismiss child grooming.
did you read and understan my comment here?this has all sorts of implciations from twitch verification system, to MrD not reporting a minor affiliate.
the same type of flaws i would assume or guess any legal system like defence of an inocent/state/company would be looking to investiagte.this is not be tryting to defend DrD just highlight what i see as some of the flaws / issues / processes
if you read papers over the years you will have seen how damaging this can be to people (not just individuals) who are innocent.Massive Bills yes, and if "inocent" (which im not saying he is) years and years of abuse, memes about liking them young, constant suspion, stress. this will come back time and time again now. people wont let it go if hes inocent, they have latched on to it already and made their minds up.
im not sure how to interpret this responce.wtf, it's incredible the lengths some people will go to to think of any excuse. It's like a cult.
stranger things, epstien as example people knew and did nothing. women who you would think would want to protect children the girls especaily let it slid.They wanted to protect the victim by allowing Dr Disrespect to go scott free and make more victims. Excellent logic right there.
good PR and looks good to the public "were sorry wont happen again" a company that looks like its taking responsibility instead of trying to work out how not to get court again.If they didn't care then why do they always release such sincere apology videos.
then the leaks will get questions and or add fuel to the fires. it will be an interesting read and i am interested to understand how the coments fit togeather. and if what i read falls inline with other peopels comments. sadly its going to be difficault to verrify anything these days with technology able tofabricate stuff.I suspect the messages will get leaked at somepoint (maybe over the weekend) and we will get our answer for sure. Either that or Cody gets sued.
thats more of them protecting the brand and keeping up appearancesIf they didn't care then why do they always release such sincere apology videos.