Economic cars

lordrobs · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:09

Tip for izzy_ecclescake - not everyone on the roads is trying to race you and everytime you pull away ahead of another car it isn't a "win". Oh and you son probably doesn't think you are Jay Kay with your car choice

Sorry to disappoint

oh and 7.9s to 60 YEAH BABY EAT MY EXHAUST FUMES ECO BOY!!!!1 or something to that effect.

flibbage0 · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:16

I've just though of something.

If they put 1.5/1.6 diesel engines in these eco cars like the BMW 3 series.

Why can't they put them in smaller, lighter cars?

Surely requires less stamping on the accelerator and will have better performance?

lordrobs · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:19

flibbage0 said:
I've just though of something.

If they put 1.5/1.6 diesel engines in these eco cars like the BMW 3 series.

Why can't they put them in smaller, lighter cars?

Surely requires less stamping on the accelerator and will have better performance?

Ummm.... I'm pretty sure they do

Dogbreath · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:27

jigger said:
Sub 10 seconds is not bad for what the car is. Its faster than what most traffic pulls away at.

What on earth is the relevance of that? Traffic doesn't tend to pull away flat out. In fact you often get someone in a Prius who moves so slowly that three cars get through before the next red...

The Prius simply isn't fast whichever way you look at it. It has useful amount of acceleration for it's purpose, quicker than small engined shopping cars etc. but it is in absolutely no way a performance car, in the same way a bottom of the range diesel Mondeo isn't a performance car. To think or claim otherwise is simply delusion.

Dogbreath · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:29

Usher said:
but in all honesty why the big deal over a second or 2 ??

Why on earth do people by super cars, muscle cars, hot hatches etc? I simply can't understand it myself, it's a lot of fuss over a few horsepower.

Witor · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:30

More fun perhaps?

Uriel · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:31

After years driving a 68bhp Fabia, a MK3 Prius felt pretty quick.

If you're booting it in a Prius, you're kind of missing the point though. Foot flat to the floor at every set of lights is not going to get you 65mpg...

Fusion · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:35

izzy eckerslike said:
You underestimate the power of a 600 volt 3 phase electric motor, why do you think the Nissan leaf does 0-60 in 7 seconds???

It has a 90KW motor which is 122hp and the vehicle supposedly weighs 1,545kg (http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk...bishi-i-miev-which-electric-car-has-the-edge/) there is no way it will do 0-60 in 7 seconds.

A BMW 116i has 122hp, weighs 1340kg unladen and only does 0-62 in 9.8s.

[TW]Fox · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:38

Fusion said:
It has a 90KW motor which is 122hp and the vehicle supposedly weighs 1,545kg (http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk...bishi-i-miev-which-electric-car-has-the-edge/) there is no way it will do 0-60 in 7 seconds.

A BMW 116i has 122hp, weighs 1340kg unladen and only does 0-62 in 9.8s.

I have no idea how fast a Leaf is but don't forget the different gearing makes to acceleration sometimes...

Tute · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:42

To be fair, I remember describing the Fabia vRS as "brutally quick" or similar. Now, having owned my Leon for 18 months, it certainly was not, and neither is the current car.

My 0-60 is 8 seconds, and i'd call it "brisk", but it's not "fast" by any stretch of the imagination.

Our Fabia claims 11.1s to 60 on Parkers and it's about barely competent on the road. Enough power to get you around but not enough for even the most basic of overtakes.

Either way, playing traffic light GP is surely missing the point of a Prius?

EndlessSky · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:54

When you put the Prius into power mode, does Jeremy Clarkson bellow out of the speakers?

POWWWERRR!

izzy eckerslike · 12 Sep 2011 at 20:57

Uriel said:
If you're booting it in a Prius, you're kind of missing the point though. Foot flat to the floor at every set of lights is not going to get you 65mpg...

No but every now & again you feel the need to show some disbelievers that the car can actually shift when it needs to,

Nobody on here can understands the transmission works because of the misuse of the word CTV. There are no belts, no clutch, no gears in the normal sense just an ingenious sun & planets system that gives the smoothest auto ever invented

When you floor it it goes from 0 -80 or whatever without any hesitations or whatever so while Mondeo man is flooring the clutch in & out thru the gears Prius man just sits there in comfort watching him in the rear view mirror

[TW]Fox · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:01

izzy eckerslike said:
No but every now & again you feel the need to show some disbelievers that the car can actually shift when it needs to,

You really beleive this stuff?

Nobody on here can understands the transmission works because of the misuse of the word CTV.

Do you mean 'CVT'? I think most of us know what a CVT is. Except you, it would seem. I beleive 'CTV' is a childrens television programme perhaps?

the smoothest auto ever invented

Erm what?

When you floor it it goes from 0 -80 or whatever without any hesitations or whatever so while Mondeo man is flooring the clutch in & out thru the gears Prius man just sits there in comfort watching him in the rear view mirror

This is getting cringeworthingly bad.

lordrobs · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:03

[TW]Fox;20055225 said:
This is getting cringeworthingly bad.

We have a non believer, activate POWER mode!

Disco Boy · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:05

[TW]Fox;20055225 said:
This is getting cringeworthingly bad.

It went past that with:

izzy eckerslike said:
You underestimate the power of a 600 volt 3 phase electric motor

koolpc · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:06

My Megane does go very good for a big car. Very nippy but that is not a biggy as far as i am concerned.

Pity some of you are hung up on 0-60 and owning a street cred car.

At 47 all i want is an economical car.

Kenai · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:07

izzy eckerslike said:
I would point out that the Prius has been clocked at 0-60 - 8.8 seconds as read on the Toyota owners forum

A highly independent and objective appraisal to be found of a Toyota on a Toyota owners forum no doubt.

As read on a VW Golf owners forum, my car could do a sub 6 second 0-60 with just a remap but that doesn't make it anything less than complete fantasy

Fusion · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:07

koolpc said:
At 47 all i want is an economical car.

You've already got one.

[TW]Fox · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:08

koolpc said:
Pity some of you are hung up on 0-60 and owning a street cred car.

We are not hung up on 0-60 at all, nobody criticises the performance of a diesel Mondeo, we are specifically debating with somebody who claimed the Prius had 'excellent' performance.

At 47 all i want is an economical car.

You already have one, so if that really is all you want, keep it.

EndlessSky · 12 Sep 2011 at 21:08