*****EGOSOFT TNBT (X Rebirth)****

Skunkworks said:
You're kidding! A flight sim with more controller support than joystick?

Another game that's sold its soul to consoles. :(
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Well, it was never intended as a PC game. Egosoft just did a bodge job and squeezed it out on to PC in order to save themselves.

In doing so, all they managed was to **** many years of goodwill from the community up the proverbial wall.

The £40 price tag is probably the source of much of the outrage.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
New patch 1.17 is out. Apparently a button to cancel trades?
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pity the station manager doesn't have one the 4 ships hes controlling are stacked at a station trying to trade........

nothing seems to have changed since 1.14 when I last played ....ai is still dead trading ai is still dead
fix the important stuff ffs

still pathetic compared to mods individuals have made to such as
http://xrebirth.nexusmods.com/mods/133/?
Current Features:
* Ability to call your trader and request their trade queue be canceled.
* Trade Notifications
* Refueling Notifications
* Travel Notifications
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and
http://xrebirth.nexusmods.com/mods/59/?
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nice commands pity the devs are so incompetent they can't do what a single indivdual in his/her spare time can achieve in what was likely less than an hours work

and let's not forget this one
http://xrebirth.nexusmods.com/mods/95/?
Make miners smarter! No longer will your miners just fly randomly around the center of the zone, hoping to bump into an asteroid! (yes, that\'s actually how egosoft programmed them :/ )

Miners will now make iterative scans starting at 2.5km and increasing with 2.5km each time until they find an asteroid or they reach a scanrange of 60km.

Upcoming changes involve:

- improved intelligence (miners that sell stuff on their own :D )
- better drone movement
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some of the stuff egosoft are adding is stuff people already did with mods it makes me wonder if they are actually looking at the mods , stealing what they did and adding it to the game


shareholders >FIX BROKEN trade AI???!?!?!?! are you crazy! just add a cancel trade button
 
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meh steam refused my refund because there TOS says they do not give them ever yet other people have had them...

linked them to
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=352790

where egosoft admit all the crashes and "gameplay show stoppers"

the game is clearly broken and not fit for purpose....

I asked if I should report steam to trading standards then ^_^ not sure if they would actually care even though all the lies and misleading trailers are not actually how the game is..

I'm not settling for steam trying to wriggle out of a refund for a broken game sold as a finished product


EDIT:! I found this
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/281679/buggy-game-purchasers-entitled-to-refund/
Joint Lead Officer Sylvia Rook from the Trading Standards Institute said: "When consumers buy goods their rights are always against the retailer, so if there is a problem with a game, the consumer should return it to the retailer.

"The Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) states that goods should be of satisfactory quality, fit for their purpose and as described. If the game is faulty, then the consumer should be entitled to a refund from the retailer (although it is not unreasonable for the retailer to return it to the manufacturer in order to ensure it is, indeed, faulty and it is not operator error, or a problem with the consumer's computer).
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linked it to the steam support ticket, now let's see what they say
 
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arknor said:
meh steam refused my refund because there TOS says they do not give them ever yet other people have had them...

linked them to
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=352790

where egosoft admit all the crashes and "gameplay show stoppers"

the game is clearly broken and not fit for purpose....

I asked if I should report steam to trading standards then ^_^ not sure if they would actually care even though all the lies and misleading trailers are not actually how the game is..

I'm not settling for steam trying to wriggle out of a refund for a broken game sold as a finished product


EDIT:! I found this
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/281679/buggy-game-purchasers-entitled-to-refund/


linked it to the steam support ticket, now let's see what they say
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Sounds similar to this situation from 2011 (appart from the guy quoted distance selling regulations)
http://i.imgur.com/GJ7Qf.png
 
I'm also chucking everything at them, they've now replied 4 times with a copy/paste email which doesn't address anything I've written, get the feeling they're hoping I get bored.
 
mortals said:
Sounds similar to this situation from 2011 (appart from the guy quoted distance selling regulations)
http://i.imgur.com/GJ7Qf.png
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thank you added to my steam ticket.

I am not prepared to give in! this is the first pc game I have ever been so dissatisfied with that I have attempted a refund.

if it was because I did not like the game then fine thats my own fault but when it's a buggy mess with gameplay show stoppers...
 
Eugh had to resort to mouse/keyboard. When i try using a 360 pad or a joystick my mouse stops working. Trying to click things is impossible. I had it set up so I could move around the menus with my joystick but after installing a few mods (never dock again and the fleet command) it got very tedious.

Okay I give up. I'm on the missions where i need to acquire a marine officer. I've restarted the game about 12 times now, and i can never get past this bit. I have acquired 5 marine officers but it will not allow me to continue. Watching others on youtube it works fine for them ... meh. Uninstalling and i will come back to it later.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
Steam refund is as likely as winning the lottery. I bet most who claim they have received a refund haven't. Good luck though :)
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I have heard of cases where people have forced a Steam refund (e.g. via chargeback) they suddenly find their whole account is cancelled with loss of access to all your Steam games, not just the one you have an issue with. Sadly they seem to operate outside the norms of any form of consumer protection.
 
Vern1961 said:
I have heard of cases where people have forced a Steam refund (e.g. via chargeback) they suddenly find their whole account is cancelled with loss of access to all your Steam games, not just the one you have an issue with. Sadly they seem to operate outside the norms of any form of consumer protection.
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And the gaming world wonder why piracy is so rife, when going down the proper legal channels just gets you two fingers!

If that happened to me, I would pirate every single game I owned on the steam account and never use it again.

I think its digusting that you get NO consumer protection with digitally distributed game, so that games like X rebirth can take your money and give you the biggest pile of rubbish and you have no way of getting your money back.
 
I did get my one refund from steam , I bought RO2 and it gave me motion sickness
They refunded my money because I only had 15 mins playtime on it.

See my earlier post in this thread about pre ordering game .....
 
francky said:
And the gaming world wonder why piracy is so rife, when going down the proper legal channels just gets you two fingers!

If that happened to me, I would pirate every single game I owned on the steam account and never use it again.

I think its digusting that you get NO consumer protection with digitally distributed game, so that games like X rebirth can take your money and give you the biggest pile of rubbish and you have no way of getting your money back.
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Yeah, dont do chargeback, Totalbiscuit actually discussed Steam refunds and chargeback.

Chargeback breaks the terms of service with Steam (like wtf?? it's there as a consumer protection and there terms ask you to waive that! dear god), and they will likely cancel your account.

Ive never tried to get a refund, though if you are a regular Steam customer and are getting generic replies (probably due to the volume of complaints and refund requests) then be persistent and escalate your complaint. I suspect the one that complain the most will get there money back if its the first time they have requested for one.

hope it gets resolved.
 
Like it or not you have signed an agreement with Steam to "rent" a digital license to play the game. As part of that contract you agreed to give Steam the cost of the game which was taken from your card.

Issuing a chargeback is the same as being dissatisfied with a purchase from a shop, walking in, grabbing £40 from their till and running out. Understandably that is illegal. In this case the chargeback merely breaks your contract with Steam which as part of their TOS will result in your account being disabled.

Chargebacks are not a magic pill to be used whenever you like against anyone, it's there in case of fraud not in a valid dispute between two members of a sales contract. If they'd never sent you the license for the digital product then you would have a case for a chargeback as they had broken the sales contract first.
 
Much preferring this with the following mods -

HUD only (gets rid of the silly cockpit...which of course a lot of the fans were asking for :p)
No fog (improved performance and visuals)
Scanner ping (keeps the circles around the objects for longer)

Thoroughly enjoyed the boarding mission (once the AI eventually decided to start fighting).

So difficult to work out what to do sometimes though, but finally got my head around the food ration mission!
 
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