None of them require a smart meter installed as far as I'm aware, usually in the small print it says you agree to be contacted about having one installed not actually having one.
I was on Eons for 2 years and just refused the smart meter.
I was on Eons for 2 years and just refused the smart meter.
Soldato
Some of us live in rented properties, and I think you will find they are con
It makes no difference in a rental property, the meter is not property of the landlord.
The meter isn’t a con, that is some tin foil hat nonsense. The saving money marketing is a stretch but it’s designed to nudge behaviour change and not be some magic box that reduces your bill.
The meter isn’t a con, that is some tin foil hat nonsense. The saving money marketing is a stretch but it’s designed to nudge behaviour change and not be some magic box that reduces your bill.
Soldato
You can have poor eyesight on the readings
Email from Outfox. Our fix ends 24th March, right before the price increase. At face value that annual usage estimate is a little on the high side, as we pay £76/m, provide regular readings and are currently in credit. £1574 works out to be £131ish a month, which is way higher than what we pay now.
The new rates pretty much look like the price cap to me? Electric standing charge a little cheaper though.
Unless I find a fix at sub 20% higher than the price cap, I don't see any other option apart from just moving onto the price cap?
Edit: I was offered Fix'd X 22 2.0 with the following rates:
Electricity Unit Rate - £0.618 per kWh
Electricity Standing Charge - £0.427 per day
Gas Unit Rate - £0.192 per kWh
Gas Standing Charge - £0.331 per day
Exit fee £50
Absolutely absurd fix. 105% higher on gas and 172% on electricity over the price cap at my estimated usage (albeit wrong usage).
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Soldato
Lol.
Thanks that cheered me up needed a laugh today after all the doom and gloom that is going on.
Soldato
I appreciate you are a bit slow. I do not own the property, the landlord has to decide if they want one installing on their property, not me, or the energy companies
Wrong. The landlord has no say.
Man of Honour
As long as the electric/gas bills are in your name and not included in the rent or something like that then you can do as you wish.
I’ll await your apology for the unnecessary personal attack…
Octopus on their smart meter order page state landlord permission is required, I ordered anyway and now have an appointment, so looks like its not been enforced. I dont think the issue is ownership of meter, but rather risk of damage to the property during installation, the same reason cityfibre are requiring wayleave agreements in rented flats.
Absolutely this. The meter belongs to the supplier (technically) and is their responsibility. The supplier has to request access from the user, unless access restricted (it should never be). The user can request a meter change as long as it is non distructive.
Associate
why are so many people afraid to have a smart meter ?, all it does is give you far more options of better deals.
Soldato
Because of all the posts about people having issues with them. Issues switching, display not working, readings connectivity not working, needing replacement meters quickly, etc. No need to let them experiment on you.
Then there's people who think they're fundamentally flawed because they add money to your bill and open you up to getting charged more at peak time further down the line and there was nothing wrong with dumb meters so complicating them just creates more ways for them to fail (same story as smart lightbulbs, smart doorbells, smart thermostats, etc.)
Associate
^^^ well all I can say to that is, a smart meter has bought my monthly electric Winter bill Dec/Jan/Feb to under £30 a month, due to the choice of plans open to me on a smart meter.
Without the above I was paying £80+ per month(Winter) without all the price rises.
So again why restrict yourself to having to pay more by not having one.
Without the above I was paying £80+ per month(Winter) without all the price rises.
So again why restrict yourself to having to pay more by not having one.
Soldato
So Octopus are doing a great trial with the grid to encourage users to reduce energy during peak times where 'dirty' energy would be needed to supply demand. It's fantastic, and you can read more here: https://octopus.energy/blog/the-big-dirty-turn-down-free-electricity-trial
But MY GOD, they need to incentivise it better:
But MY GOD, they need to incentivise it better:
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