Englands World Cup Failure

this isnt about winning or losing, this is about seeing a set of players play on the world stage who want to be there.

Game after game they showed no desire to play or have any impact on the game. There was no hunger.

I don't agree with you at all. The problem isn't hunger. The goals we conceded were basic defensive errors. They showed a lack of ball retention skills and bad positioning. It doesn't matter how much hunger you've got when you concede four stupid goals like England did.

The real problem is the woeful English youth system that produces only one typer of player. An intelligent player could have unlocked Algeria and the USA, thus avoiding the need to play Germany in the last 16 completely. Unfortunately, we don't produce that kind of player.
 
The Capello press conference at lunchtime:

2pm: Capello didn’t look altogether comfortable during that press
conference. He, understandably, came under pressure with a tough line of
questioning and he certainly didn’t seem altogether happy with the FA’s
decision to take two weeks to consider his future.


He did, however, reiterate that he would not walk away from his position as
England manager.


He was asked: “Do you want to stay on as England manager?” His response:
“Absolutely.”

1.58pm: Adrian Bevington, the director of Club England, interjects and
brings an end to proceedings. His final words are: “Fabio does not set his
salary. I think everyone would agree that coming into this tournament, he
had one of the best records in the game in qualifying England for this
tournament. When we appointed him, English football was on the floor after
we failed to qualify for a major tournament. It is important to remember
that Fabio restored confidence. That is all for now, we have to move on ...”

1.57pm: Capello is asked whether he is still worth the £6 million a
season he is paid by the FA. Capello says: “When the FA decided to
pick me as manager. I spoke with the people and they decided to give me this
money. But the money is not why I took the job. I refused a lot of
opportunities with important clubs because I want to stay as England
manager. I like this job. I like to be England manager.”

1.56pm: The Italian is asked whether any of the England players had
been difficult to deal with. “No. Absolutely not. They were happy.”

1.55pm: Capello is asked if there should be a winter break in England:
“Yes. But that is not for me to decide. Germany have one and they are always
stronger in the second half of the season.”

1.54pm: Capello adds: “I learnt a lot from this tournament. The players
trained very well, they were focused every time but the performance was not
right. We were very tired.”

1.53pm: Capello is asked whether 4-4-2 is out of date: “It is a good
style depends on form of the players. It depends on physical situation, not
style.”

1.51pm: Adrian Bevington, the director of Club England, adds: “Sir Dave
[Richards] met with Fabio this morning. We are all very clear that Fabio is
under contract with the FA until the 2012 European Championships and nothing
has changed in that respect. Obviously everybody is very disappointed today
with the fact that we’ve gone out of the World Cup in a manner that everyone
back in England and the fans that have travelled are incredibly frustrated
with. So it makes perfect sense for us to go back to London and take stock
of the situation, reflect fully on the tournament and see what we can take
from it and just speak to Fabio from there.


“I don’t think there is anything sinister in it beyond that other than we just
want to make sure that we show a common-sense approach rather than making
any other snap knee-jerk reactions within 24 hours of a very disappointing
result.”

1.50pm: Capello is asked why he failed to get the best out of Wayne
Rooney: “Not just Wayne Rooney but all the English players are really tired.
I spoke with the players and they told me that the physical situation of the
players was not as we know. Rooney played well some games but you can’t
speak about one player. The players were not the ones we know. I can see the
games we played against Mexico and Japan and here against the USA and
Algeria, we played moments well but not so fast.”

1.48pm: Capello: “I spoke with Sir Dave Richards and he told me he
needs two weeks to decide. I said I can be the manager of England for the
next season, but it is for him (Richards) to decide. We spoke also about the
players that can play for the next qualification and I know what I have to
do


Capello is asked: “Do you want to stay on as England manager?” His response:
“Absolutely.”

1.46pm: We’re off.

From The Times
 
What ever happened to that academy for youth excellence that was supposed to be our version of Clairefontaine... That needs to get built.

I do think Joe Cole is the kind of player we lacked creatively in the opening 2 games, even though he wasn't great when he came on in the other 2 games. He's certainly not of the same pedigree as Iniesta, Messi, Silva, etc. and you're right we produce very few players like that. We don't really do footballing artistry sadly...
 
I think there are many factors why England failed, not just one main reason. Here is what I think in a nutshell:

- Prima Donnas.

- Bad Management.

- Poor promotion of home-grown talent/ Aging team.

- Media promoting false expectation.


After listening to the game on Five Live yesterday and watching the BBC Stream I would agree with one of the commentator who said;

Out of the 4 games, 360 minutes played, England probably played a combined total of 45 minutes decent football at the standard we expect and that is seen in top flight football. The rest was gash. (Paraphrased obviously :p)

It's a deep rooted problem that isn't just going to go away with sacking Capello for instance, there need to be some serious changes.

Also, lol @ the men who are paid millions to run around and play football as professional athletes stating they are tired. Typical English excuses/blame game.
 
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The thing is, a lot of people constantly put office work as superior to exercise, yet the majority of people frown upon doing exercise because they have to put more effort into it than sitting at a desk meeting certain deadlines. I sit at a desk for my job, fiddling with media related software and that doesn't compare to the intensity of exercise when your pushing your body to it's full potential, risking the chances of injury to occur which the majority of critics can't even accomplish, i can't even imagine how hard it is to constantly try and be in peak condition throughout the year whilst the expectations of a nation sits on my shoulders expecting more than i give them.

Yes, it is an english response because, surprise, surprise, i am english.

do you earn 100K per week ?
 
To be honest, I wouldn't sack Capello. We can't keep sacking managers every time we have a poor year - this was a learning experience for Capello; possibly more so than the players. I think that sacking him at this stage wouldn't resolve anything and would just put another inexperienced international manager in exactly his shoes in 4 years time.

If after the Euros when his contract expires we're doing poorly, we'll look at the situation again but sacking him at this stage doesn't solve anything.
 
What ever happened to that academy for youth excellence that was supposed to be our version of Clairefontaine... That needs to get built.

I do think Joe Cole is the kind of player we lacked creatively in the opening 2 games, even though he wasn't great when he came on in the other 2 games. He's certainly not of the same pedigree as Iniesta, Messi, Silva, etc. and you're right we produce very few players like that. We don't really do footballing artistry sadly...

It was closed in the 90s as far as I can remember. Fantastic decision which is still paying off.
 
So I've read. Proof? How do we know none of the players keep any of the money they earn? Regardless, I honestly don't believe they're particularly hungry to win for their country, not as much as other countries are at any rate.

Take a look at the Team England Footballers Charity, that's just the page for what the players say but at the moment they are supporting a cancer awareness drive.

You can argue about whether they are deserving of the cap or not with a lack of desire or whatever but they're not profiting from playing for their country.
 
I read somewhere, it may well have been here, that in spain there are are over 5000 official registered coaches, 5x as many as we have.

And I guess by coaches they don't mean fat, pie-eating imbeciles from Shrewsbury, who shout at anyone trying to do anything remotely creative, and stand at the touchlines delivering expletive-ridden tirades "ATTITUDE, ATTITUDE YOU ****! ******* GET RID OF IT. ******* HOOF IT, DON'T MESS ABOUT WITH IT"

DAMN YOU MIKE ROBERTS!!


It was only the Under 11s!...sorry...erm I digress. You don't need to hear things I've repressed since childhood...
 
It's the players really, not the manager, (even with some bad decisions like playing heskey). Let's face it, you can shout at your players about tactics
till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't manage to pass the ball accurately and keep possession enough, what's the manager supposed to do, come on and kick the ball for them? How many managers does it take to realise that the players are where the fault lies. If you argue that the players have enough skill, then I would argue they don't have the right mental approach, the right amount of self belief and confidence. They never really have had that. It's all talk, no action. "ehhm.. we know we can do better and.. ehmm. we have to play better next time".

It's always 'next time'!
 
Sack Capello and we get either Redknapp or Hodgson most likely.

Both known for playing 4-4-2 with a big, lumbering striker and a play-maker on the left of midfield.
 
Being serious for a minute about Redknapp I think he probably could get a bit more out of the players, the problem is he has a cloud hanging over him, would the FA be prepared to take a risk?
 
Id rather see Venables back as manager than dodgy Redknapp in all honesty...Venables had quite a few skeletons in his closet but regardless he almost led us to the Euro96 title.
 
the other problem we have is patience.

instead of passing it around and working an opportunity, we want to go for the grande slam every time we get the ball. its all or nothing.

watch gaha, see how simple they do it, how they covet the ball, not throw it long up field like the ball will give them lepracy if they hold onto it for more than 2 touches.
 
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