European Grand Prix 2010, Valencia Street Circuit - Race 9/19

I have to admit, I was bricking myself when that car went through the air - he must have been carrying 160mph+ after impact, and he was ball-shavingly close to the barrier. An almighty impact, thank god he's ok.

Great result - actually not an entirely boring race, quite a lot of dicing for position, Webber's literal translation of Red Bull's slogan, and Vettel winning :D
 
look at what I wrote - they still had pretty FRESH tyres on, Imagine if they stopped earlier and used the FULL "freshness" up - they could have been further up the field with a better strategy (without allowing for the time they wasted holding up other cars on their old and used tyres)

If they were dropping off the pace on the old tyres I could understand them pitting earlier and switching to the softer rubber. Trouble is they were lapping consistently (somehow) as fast as those around and even in front of them on the old tyres even though everyone else had newer rubber. The number of places they would have lost pitting earlier due to not being as far infront of the cars behind was not worth it. They left it long enough to drop back into some points and close enough to Alonso to make use of the brand new rubber on what is one of the slower cars on the grid.
 
just finished watching the recording and i think without the crash it was quite boring apart from the last 2 laps with kobayashi doing alonso :D

5 second penalties for all them drivers, whats the point in that.
 
The crash actually got me wondering, are the advertising hoardings over the track 'deformable' or such like? Because Webber smashed into the DHL one when he took off, luckily the bottom of the car hit it but wondered if the regulations say they have to be made with any particular material in case of such an incident cos that thing could have decapitated him otherwise!
 
If they were dropping off the pace on the old tyres I could understand them pitting earlier and switching to the softer rubber. Trouble is they were lapping consistently (somehow) as fast as those around and even in front of them on the old tyres even though everyone else had newer rubber. The number of places they would have lost pitting earlier due to not being as far infront of the cars behind was not worth it. They left it long enough to drop back into some points and close enough to Alonso to make use of the brand new rubber on what is one of the slower cars on the grid.

but the pace they were going at was THEIR max pace - OBVIOUSLY not JB's who proved how fast he could go given free air immediately KOBY went into the pits. Even Koby himself was going a lot faster once he came out

Hamilton was thrashing Koby lap after lap (which is why they dropped back so relatively quickly)

I still think Sauber LOST places by pitting later (they could have naturally come out ahead of Alonso if they pitted earlier)
 
Who do you think is to blame then? Heikki? Webber? Or the FIA?

I don't think anyone is to blame, it was a racing incident. Webber milked the slip stream for as much as it was worth but I don't think there is a single driver on the track that wouldn't do the same. It was unfortunate.
 
just finished watching the recording and i think without the crash it was quite boring apart from the last 2 laps with kobayashi doing alonso :D

5 second penalties for all them drivers, whats the point in that.

:rolleyes: They may aswell have just given a financial fine and left the race result as it was. The FIA are retarded.
 
I love what Lewis said about alonso. From the bbc

"And when told of Alonso's anger was relayed to him, Hamilton said the Spaniard should stick to analysing his own performance."

"It's good to know his weak point, I guess," :D

Great race. I think they should sake DC because he is very biased towards RB all the time and it pees me off.
They should hire our Nige to do the job.
 
Iam definitely enjoying the meltdown on some forums, if some were in charge hamilton would have lost his super-licence immediately after the safety car out lap while others cant count and keep saying that it took 20 laps for the stewards to decide the penalty.

Also of comical note I have seen criticism based on the errors of-

-presuming charlie whiting is the guy who hands out penalties.
-presuming that the stewarding team is british therefore has a british bias, its actually 2 germans, a czech and a spanaird.
-some blaming johnny herbert thinking he is now the head steward.
-some not realising that hamilton did actually serve a penalty.
-some showing a overhead freezeframe saying it showed the same as what hamilton would have seen from a foot off the floor at 100mph.
-an accusation of brake testing alonso to force him behind the safety car.



Got to love idiots.
 
-presuming charlie whiting is the guy who hands out penalties.
-presuming that the stewarding team is british therefore has a british bias, its actually 2 germans, a czech and a spanaird.
-some blaming johnny herbert thinking he is now the head steward.
-some not realising that hamilton did actually serve a penalty.
-some showing a overhead freezeframe saying it showed the same as what hamilton would have seen from a foot off the floor at 100mph.
-an accusation of brake testing alonso to force him behind the safety car.



Got to love idiots.

LOL :D
 
here is a entertaining link for some light reading-

http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=131531


Barely a step above your average youtube commentator argument on the 'holy-hell-thats-retarded' scale.


Planetf1 forum is also pretty funny thanks to a awful moderation team and many ferrari fans, moderator1 is having much fun at the moment deleting anything that criticizes alonso.


F1 has become so much more fun since hamilton arrived.
 
:confused:

Kobayashi drove a fantastic GP and the strategy call was sublime. I'm not entirely sure you quite get it.

Quite. Not desperately sure why people are saying otherwise. And hell, if the tyre rules weren't so retarded and you could run an entire race on one set, how far up the order could Kamui have finished?

Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I remember a guy running one set of tyres for the race was Monaco '97, and Mika Salo for Tyrrell. Made even more fantastic by the fact he did it with a broken front wing for a good portion of the race....
 
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