Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[stewski]

Just plant more money trees, its easy.

Or just give the Marshal plan money back to the USA the day after they lend you it?

Investing borrowed money can and has paid massive dividends when rebuilding our economy, we could cut all state functions and live like wolves, will that improve our dwindling GDP,?

Reduction of debt tomorrow is less important than improving debt to GDP as a ratio.

You can argue plans for investing are I'll considered, arguing they are conceptually impossible as a means to improve our economy is an unevidenced ideological position!

 

[Rilot]

I'd rather have what the remainers are smoking thinking that Brexit is done with. We will leave & there will be no FOM or single market.

Not necessarily. We voted to leave the EU. The other two points are up for debate. At many points during the referendum prominent leave campaigners were arguing for access to the single market.
I'm interested to understand why you think leaving the single market and ending FoM is a good thing. What is your reasoning?

 

[b0redj0rd]

I can't tell if she agrees or not.

I think shes saying the peace process 'issue' is a red herring.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

yep, here they went from over 15k lead to ~3k ish

Look at this in my constituency (one of the safest Conservative seats in the country):



Granted the Tory vote went up too but Labour went up massively since 2015.

 

[Conscript]

voting age should 21 or even 25 once they have left school and joined the real world.

What's your definition of "joined the real world"? Because your suggestion would restrict people who have been working and paying into society, or have enlisted to defend that society, unable to have a say in how it is governed for either 5 or 9 years.

E: @amigafan2003 beat me to the point.

 

[stewski]

I'd rather have what the remainers are smoking thinking that Brexit is done with. We will leave & there will be no FOM or single market.

48% voted to keep FOM and remain in the single market, are you arguing everyone who voted leave wanted those dead bad enough to cost double Labours spending plans?

 

[dalehitchy1]

I hope this is a joke....



Nate

Where did he get this info from?

 

[Secret_Window]

they are still in utter denial and thats why polls are showing Labour now have the lead if a GE was called.

They are deluded. Listening to Chris Grayling on Peston was bad enough.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

What's your definition of "joined the real world"? Because your suggestion would restrict people who have been working and paying into society, or have enlisted to defend that society, unable to have a say in how it is governed for either 5 or 9 years.

So I've had a job and I'm under 20. Does this mean I would be excluded even though I have by their definition, lived "in the real world"?

 

[Conscript]

So I've had a job and I'm under 20. Does this mean I would be excluded even though I have by their definition, lived "in the real world"?

Precisely. Ridiculous suggestion from someone who is just coming across as increasingly bitter.

 

[Arazi]

Absolutely no loyalty to his party at all. I don't understand it, especially when you consider the socialist policies of the current Labour manifesto are pretty much the direct opposite of his own views. I've got no respect for him at all.

Be interesting to see what happens but I think Labour have some nerve suggesting they now have a mandate. No you don't, you are 56 seats behind the conservatives! He claims they want to try and form a minority government, but even with the SNP and LD they still don't have a majority.

He comes across as Tory boy playing Tory boy games, an utter **** of the highest order with a superiority complex, i really do not like him.
Snidey little man.

 

[jjwf]

Not necessarily. We voted to leave the EU. The other two points are up for debate. At many points during the referendum prominent leave campaigners were arguing for access to the single market.
I'm interested to understand why you think leaving the single market and ending FoM is a good thing. What is your reasoning?

FOM will not continue when we leave, that was made quite plain by both side's before the vote and any party that goes back on that will be out of running the country for a generation. Ending FOM needs to happen, the strain on schools, the NHS, housing, driving down wages amongst other reason are why it will happen.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

I'm increasingly come around to the idea of a Corbyn Government. Austerity whilst I agree with it in principal, clearly isn't working for a lot of this country and they've said so in this election. We've had a centrist Government in Tony Blair, we've had a right wing Government in Cameron/May. So, why should we not try a left-wing Government? We don't really know what would happen. If it goes **** up well we've learnt our lesson.

 

[b0redj0rd]

I'm increasingly come around to the idea of a Corbyn Government. Austerity whilst I agree with it in principal, clearly isn't working for a lot of this country and they've said so in this election. We've had a centrist Government in Tony Blair, we've had a right wing Government in Cameron/May. So, why should we not try a left-wing Government? We don't really know what would happen. If it goes **** up well we've learnt our lesson.

Because the Conservatives had more of the vote?

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

Because the Conservatives had more of the vote?

I'm not convinced they would get more seats at the next election. Again, overall vote share is pretty meaningless in the system we have.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Some are also saying if you are a certain age you are also too senile to vote, and if you are sick or disabled you shouldn't be able to vote either.

They sound like true torys haha - you can vote, as long as you vote the 'right way' ..........

 

[jjwf]

48% voted to keep FOM and remain in the single market, are you arguing everyone who voted leave wanted those dead bad enough to cost double Labours spending plans?

Double Labours spending plans, remind us again how much where Labour planning on spending?

 

[b0redj0rd]

They sound like true torys haha - you can vote, as long as you vote the 'right way' ..........

Weren't 'Remainers' saying those over a certain age shouldn't have a vote re: BREXIT?

 

[Secret_Window]

I'm increasingly come around to the idea of a Corbyn Government. Austerity whilst I agree with it in principal, clearly isn't working for a lot of this country and they've said so in this election. We've had a centrist Government in Tony Blair, we've had a right wing Government in Cameron/May. So, why should we not try a left-wing Government? We don't really know what would happen. If it goes **** up well we've learnt our lesson.

The reason is because some people live in a bubble and are not affected by what other parts of the country have endured, and so for them it's a risk of losing what they have in their little bubble, where they are living comfortably warm and safe, without the problems the other 95% have.

 

[b0redj0rd]

48% voted to keep FOM and remain in the single market, are you arguing everyone who voted leave wanted those dead bad enough to cost double Labours spending plans?

You say that, however 80(ish)% of the electorate just voted for the 2 parties who say they will leave the Single Market ...