Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn
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Out of curiosity has anyone stuck with this game since release? I mean consistently, not had a 2+ month break or anything? I've only met 1 other person who has, everyone else tends to take weeks away from it then has another stint at end game.
I already had a level 50 WAR from 1.0, and I reached level 46 with SCH and tried levelling some other jobs higher, but in the end I just lost all desire to log in. I've tried coming back to speak to friends and see if I can get the enthusiasm to play again but I'm just not feeling it at all. It's completely lost me and I get the same exact feeling from playing games like WoW, LotR, SWTOR.
I already had a level 50 WAR from 1.0, and I reached level 46 with SCH and tried levelling some other jobs higher, but in the end I just lost all desire to log in. I've tried coming back to speak to friends and see if I can get the enthusiasm to play again but I'm just not feeling it at all. It's completely lost me and I get the same exact feeling from playing games like WoW, LotR, SWTOR.
I can't stick with an MMO anymore. Maybe I am just tired with the whole genre?
They are all basically the same, spend the first half of progression go to x, kill y, come back.
Second half is raiding for better gear to do better raids for better gear.
They are all basically the same, spend the first half of progression go to x, kill y, come back.
Second half is raiding for better gear to do better raids for better gear.
I know what you mean. I don't get why MMO's all have to be the same now. Isn't there room for games that rely on players getting together to progress instead of making everything single-player except for endgame?
I know there is money in the genre for the WoW type mechanic (not as much as there used to be) but it has zero lasting appeal and the majority of MMOers tend to agree. I've spoken to so many people who are the same as me, they're tired of this formula. Games like GW2 come along promising a different approach, but in the end they're the same and I think I know what the problem is.
In my opinion the problem stems from developers trying to turn the genre into something it simply isn't. It's not a single-player, casual experience. An MMO is fundamentally group focussed at its core, its time consuming and not suited to brief 1-2 hour playing stints. And its this that upsets me so much about FFXIV because of the company behind it. These guys created and still run a highly successful MMO that relies on (well, I should say relied on) the social aspect of its game world and knew, from the ground up, that it was to be played at all times with other people.
FFXI was the best MMO I've ever played, it had problems absolutely; mostly problems that could have been fixed by having the directors of the game be a bit more proactive in decision making, but it ultimately got the main important thing right about MMO's, it knew what an MMO was and what it wanted to be. To progress in most parts of the game you had to get together with other people, or you needed other people to do something or other in order to progress. This mentality also had the benefit of making the individual player's job vital to the overall success of the party. Tactics, knowledge and balance where vital in making good progress together.
FFXIV could have been the updated version of FFXI. It could have fitted that niche in the market that so many western developers just can't even begin to see exists. Sadly it's not going to happen now, and I was probably being foolish thinking SquareEnix had the foresight to see this as their ancestors Square originally did.
I'm just fed up with the direction the whole genre has been pushed down by lack of development foresight. I know its expensive making MMO's, I know the producers and the money behind these games want to see evidence of sustained profits, but come on, surely it's time to see how utterly stagnant the genre has become
I know there is money in the genre for the WoW type mechanic (not as much as there used to be) but it has zero lasting appeal and the majority of MMOers tend to agree. I've spoken to so many people who are the same as me, they're tired of this formula. Games like GW2 come along promising a different approach, but in the end they're the same and I think I know what the problem is.
In my opinion the problem stems from developers trying to turn the genre into something it simply isn't. It's not a single-player, casual experience. An MMO is fundamentally group focussed at its core, its time consuming and not suited to brief 1-2 hour playing stints. And its this that upsets me so much about FFXIV because of the company behind it. These guys created and still run a highly successful MMO that relies on (well, I should say relied on) the social aspect of its game world and knew, from the ground up, that it was to be played at all times with other people.
FFXI was the best MMO I've ever played, it had problems absolutely; mostly problems that could have been fixed by having the directors of the game be a bit more proactive in decision making, but it ultimately got the main important thing right about MMO's, it knew what an MMO was and what it wanted to be. To progress in most parts of the game you had to get together with other people, or you needed other people to do something or other in order to progress. This mentality also had the benefit of making the individual player's job vital to the overall success of the party. Tactics, knowledge and balance where vital in making good progress together.
FFXIV could have been the updated version of FFXI. It could have fitted that niche in the market that so many western developers just can't even begin to see exists. Sadly it's not going to happen now, and I was probably being foolish thinking SquareEnix had the foresight to see this as their ancestors Square originally did.
I'm just fed up with the direction the whole genre has been pushed down by lack of development foresight. I know its expensive making MMO's, I know the producers and the money behind these games want to see evidence of sustained profits, but come on, surely it's time to see how utterly stagnant the genre has become
I couldn't find it using the store on PS4 but I did manage to grab it via the web store: https://store.sonyentertainmentnetw...beta/cid=EP0082-CUSA00455_00-B000000000000951
Also the PC version started selling on Steam yesterday, special offer atm of £9.99, cheap way of getting PC version and an extra 30 days on your account
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Just picked this up on PS3 as a cheap route to the PS4 version. Damn the install is slow and I haven't even got to the updates yet
It's only 26 quid on the PS4? How cheap did you get it on the PS3??
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Mine was £10 at asda, think its £8ish on game?
15 quid at game. If it was 8 quid i'd buy it as it's another month for a sub
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Ahh right its gone back up now then, im going to buy it on steam for £10 as another month and then being able to play on pc too
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I picked it up for PS3 last month for £8 from Amazon. Plan to start the game a day or so before the full launch and get my free 30 days on PS4.
Looking forward to the beta on Saturday morning.
Looking forward to the beta on Saturday morning.
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Good idea and i hope others know you have to have played on ps3 to be elligible for the ps4 upgrade! Dont buy and assume you can jump in on ps4 wothout using the game on ps3 first
Im trying the beta top just to see how much better it can look as its hideous on ps3 lol jaggy as hell but still playable, just rough looking
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Cheers will do this when im home then! Is the patching big? Client was like 10gb(i think)
Does your account have to be live at the time of ps4 release though? I've played on PS3 but haven't subscribed after my 30 days.
It does look rough but it's the most interesting MMO I've played in a long time, nothing particularly ground-breaking just enjoyable
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Does your account have to be live at the time of ps4 release though? I've played on PS3 but haven't subscribed after my 30 days.
It does look rough but it's the most interesting MMO I've played in a long time, nothing particularly ground-breaking just enjoyable
hmm im not sure i doubt it? good point. from the latest news about the upgrade i think the only criteria is to have a ps3 copy of the game on the service account with square enix and to have played it on the console. you can add time to that account and then upgrade surely? its all a bit unclear
Does your account have to be live at the time of ps4 release though? I've played on PS3 but haven't subscribed after my 30 days.
It does look rough but it's the most interesting MMO I've played in a long time, nothing particularly ground-breaking just enjoyable
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38gig after all installs, thank god for 120meg BB