Forgot how bad job searching was :(

Personally I'm starting to think that the large sites such as Monster etc will become victims.

The reason is simple, if a job gets 2000 applicants from Monster it becomes difficult for companies to find what they're looking for. A majority of application are non-specific thus can be rejected immediately.

Instead I see that direct company applications are the way to go. You know the company, you know their market and you have shown the time to find and apply. The benefit for the company is simple - less CVs with those applying being in the market as they are aware of the company and of the appearance of the role through contacts relevant to the company.

I'll summarise things in a bit - need to go food shopping :D
 
Delvis said:
I've applied to companys directly before, and I just get ignored....Not even a polite 'no there is nothing' :p
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I've found that with direct applications, it's best to phone them up first and get a contact name, then send your email/letter to that contact, and then give them a ring a few days after that to follow up.
 
manic111 said:
I've found that with direct applications, it's best to phone them up first and get a contact name, then send your email/letter to that contact, and then give them a ring a few days after that to follow up.
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Yeah but how about if you are just generally inquiring to see if there are any available positions? That are not advertised? :)
 
NickK said:
Personally I'm starting to think that the large sites such as Monster etc will become victims.

The reason is simple, if a job gets 2000 applicants from Monster it becomes difficult for companies to find what they're looking for. A majority of application are non-specific thus can be rejected immediately.

Instead I see that direct company applications are the way to go. You know the company, you know their market and you have shown the time to find and apply. The benefit for the company is simple - less CVs with those applying being in the market as they are aware of the company and of the appearance of the role through contacts relevant to the company.

I'll summarise things in a bit - need to go food shopping :D
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Its still worth trying monster, jobserve etc. I had my CV on monster and jobserve and my company found me through monster. Had a couple of interviews with them and ive been working with them since 1st June now.
Think I got lucky aswell, first company I had an interview for I got (not first company ive ever worked for but after i travelled for 7 months)
A thanks to Huddy for his great interview prop too of course!
 
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Guest2 said:
Its still worth trying monster, jobserve etc. I had my CV on monster and jobserve and my company found me through monster. Had a couple of interviews with them and ive been working with them since 1st June now.
Think I got lucky aswell, first company I had an interview for I got (not first company ive ever worked for but after i travelled for 7 months)
A thanks to Huddy for his great interview prop too of course!
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What is jobserve like as a whole? Never used it...Going to have a look at it now for a bit :)

Recently put my CV on cv-library for the hell of it, and applied for a few random things.
 
Delvis said:
What is jobserve like as a whole? Never used it...Going to have a look at it now for a bit :)

Recently put my CV on cv-library for the hell of it, and applied for a few random things.
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Free! Jobserve is pretty good, not as good as monster but similar. I uploaded a standard cover letter and CV then changed it slightly to match a particular job. I ended up getting around 10 - 15 jobs a day emailed to me from monster and jobserve in the IT support industry. You just press apply or deny on the ones you want, if deny then put a reason like i put location to a lot of mine.
It obviously worked because im working exactly were I want to be (Leeds Centre) in a good company with small IT team (me and my boss for 7 offices)
 
Delvis said:
Yeah but how about if you are just generally inquiring to see if there are any available positions? That are not advertised? :)
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Still no reason you can't phone up, ask who is in charge of personnel/recruitment/HR, and have a chat with them. If you play your cards right then the worst that you'll get should be the offer of you sending them your CV, and them contacting you if anything relevant comes up. At best they'll say they might be looking and to send your CV over, and you say "OK, I'll phone you to follow up in a few days time."
 
platypus said:
I'd kinda like to move careers though; and thats never easy.
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I'm lucky I made the jump from team lead/software engineer/architect to presales product specialist about four years ago with the very real view that engineering would be outsourced. Then jumped from that into product management.
I have to say I've loved every minute of it.
 
Delvis said:
Erm, which?

I replied to one the other day I think? Been having issues with sending mail through a different ISP, but I've sorted it now, so apoligies if i have 'ignored' an email, not intentional.
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I sent it 3 days ago, wasn't sure if you received it. Was about jobs etc.
 
RichIbizaSport said:
congrats :)

what are you doing?
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Diary service co-ordinator for session musicians. I will be dealing with session contractors/musical directors and booking the companies clients (players) in for orchestras (london symphony/philarmonic, film score recordings e.t.c.)
 
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