Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.

ubersonic said:
And what about England's dependence on Russian gas? What happens when winter comes?
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35% of our Gas is Russian and is fed into the European network, find 35% on the global market maybe as a start.

Turn everything below Watford into a shale gas bonanza.

It is not really a police matter though is it, i imagine our spooks are full on doing stuff.

But yes it would be false handshake syndrome winning the world, maybe doing a stinky palm before :)
 
ubersonic said:
And what about England's dependence on Russian gas? What happens when winter comes?
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"A spokeswoman for the Department for Business, Enterprise and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) told BBC News that the UK "benefits from highly diverse and flexible sources of gas supply. We estimate less than 1% of our gas comes from Russia and are in no way reliant on it"."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43421431
 
What?

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Someone is lying or this image is outdated. (Dec 2017, BP's own info) (its 15%)

Mind you if Russia wanted to annoy the UK, they'd be annoying the rest of Europe aswell, which is probably worth it.
 
StriderX said:
Someone is lying or this image is outdated. (Dec 2017, BP's own info)
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https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-less-than-1-per-cent-uk-gas-supplies-come-from-russia

Most gas imports to the UK come via pipelines, primarily from the Norwegian sector of the North Sea. Pipelines accounted for 45% of supplies in 2017, as the chart above shows. The remaining 8% of last year’s supplies came via shipments of LNG, mostly from Qatar.

A more detailed breakdown of the source of imports is below.

In 2018 to date, domestic production accounts for 33% of UK demand, imports from Norway a further 39% and other pipelines another 20%, according to figures from ICIS, an information provider. It says LNG shipments have accounted for just 2.9% of supplies in 2018 to date, including 0.4 percentage points from Russia.
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Seems we're not that reliant on Russia after all.
 
They still supply a third to the EU in general, so a third of the pipelines of those countries are either subsidised or a direct line to Russian gas, so i don't see what the issue is, it's still ~15% of our needs.

You're focusing on LNG, which is important, but not to the actual matter at hand of the wholesale market, which the UK does not control, the European market does that and so far they haven't been able to find suitable alternatives because lo-&-behold, the pipeline that was supposed to do it was blocked by a convenient Syrian war and a small conflict in Ukraine.

The fact that Factcheck cant even write something legitimately simple is sad. Regardless 15% isnt dependency, it's a mild irritant and Russia would have to block everything to achieve it.
 
Malevolence said:
"A spokeswoman for the Department for Business, Enterprise and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) told BBC News that the UK "benefits from highly diverse and flexible sources of gas supply. We estimate less than 1% of our gas comes from Russia and are in no way reliant on it"."
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Person who works for government in towing government line shocker :P

If it hadn't been for Russia selling us extra gas beyond what we normally get from them via the EU we would have run out last winter.


StriderX said:
What?
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Note the wording, they say that less that 1% of our gas comes from Russia, not that less that 1% originates in Russia. When we buy gas from the EU that it buys from Russia it's marked as EU gas.
 
ubersonic said:
Note the wording, they say that less that 1% of our gas comes from Russia, not that less that 1% originates in Russia. When we buy gas from the EU that it buys from Russia it's marked as EU gas.
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That's just disingenuous and you know it, the wording should be that we only directly control 0.4% of the supply from Russia, another 14-16% coming from the Europe-wide market, before going into the security of that supply and what Europe is doing about it.

Instead it washes a good discussion in the *******, because people don't want to know, they just want to be told.

Of course lets never open that can of worms that granted us two civil wars that we likely had a hand in, to attempt to secure our heating supplies from belligerent countries, that's too cerebral for the average Brit.

Regardless it's not the gas that the UK government and it's corrupt af cronies are worried about, its the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of dark money flowing from Russian oligarchs and agents through London every year into terrorism, paying off Arron Banks, supporting the dissolution of the UK and the EU etc etc. The Tories ******* love money, even if it was literally Hitler or Stalin themselves paying them, they'd probably obfuscate til it didn't matter.
 
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ubersonic said:
It's hardly a non issue when if it wasn't for Russian gas this country would have run out of gas during the last winter (you know the time when gas is mortally important).

Hence why this idea that we should just cut them off/etc is so stupid when it would be far far more damaging to us.
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its like 1% of our supply as pointed out though... assuming they even did decide to not deal with us directly
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Time to cut our military spend tbh and annoy the US. Morons.
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It is kind of a fortuitous position Russia have managed land in with defense/etc at the moment really. If European countries cut defense spending then Russia's might improves (defacto as they aren't cutting theirs) but if we increase it by I.E buying more F-35s then Russia's might again improves as they can spend their F-35 comission on tanks or whatnot. Truly a bizarre situation we've ended up in and there's zero chance Russia planned it.
 
No confirmation of any links but a few roads have been closed and a bus cordoned off supposedly after a man was found slumped over. Hopefully just an excessively drunk waster or something. Been a helicopter hovering around too, they're obviously very twitchy with these things.
 
Call me a conspiracy theorist or a victim blamer here..

But who else has the impression that novichock was probably administered to Sergei and Yulia Skripal as a genuine assassination attempt, probably via syringe in to food or drink..

I believe the syringe and its packaging was disposed of or thrown away nearby.

I think at some point Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley found the syringe that most likely looked clean and used it to take drugs.. hence the randomness of their encounter and the high dosage.

I may be an absolute cynic and be way off the mark.. but i don't see any other way they could have come in to contact with such a high dosage otherwise, it is not like the police would come out and say "two smackheads found a used but clean looking needle used previous with novichock and injected themselves with heroin.."

These two people need to look as blameless as possible to justify the accusations towards Russia.

Personally i don't see why any British person should care or accept our government warmongering with a country for the attempted execution of an ex-spy and former KBG agent, the British man and woman being effected is just "too perfect" to justify further hostilities.
 
terley said:
I may be an absolute cynic and be way off the mark.. but i don't see any other way they could have come in to contact with such a high dosage otherwise, it is not like the police would come out and say "two smackheads found a used but clean looking needle used previous with novichock and injected themselves with heroin.."
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They burgled the safe house of the Russian spy
 
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