Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.

It turns out that the Hague is popular with random Russians who just want to visit historic sights, any reports they had a lot of electronics and hacking equipment is just propaganda.
apparently they were re-enacting the pineapple hack as publicized on silicon valley show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbetD2LMbeQ
so if opcw security is susceptible to this .. I don't know who is zooming who .. GRU are just a penetration testing company ?

According to R4 today Putin just uses MontBlanc pen and paper
 
Not surprising considering this whole thread is the result of a botched covert assassination that was supposed to look like a natural death and leave no evidence.

This is perhaps the most extraordinary aspect of the whole thing.

Not only did they totally **** up the original mission.

They made a total and utter Horlicks of the damage control.

If it wasn't for the actual dead people, it could be a script for "Carry on Spying"
 
This is perhaps the most extraordinary aspect of the whole thing.

Not only did they totally **** up the original mission.

Again, you have no concrete proof of this (despite the official line having several of its major points debunked already). Is it suspect two Russians would travel in those conditions twice to see a tower? I don't know. Myself and a friend travelled hours to go up a tower.

They made a total and utter Horlicks of the damage control.

So did the UK. We've already in this case had the Met lie about the timeline, lie about the 16:22:43 picture, refuse to release the Skripal CCTV footage, use sexed up language ("military grade"), not allow the victims to speak etc etc)

If it wasn't for the actual dead people, it could be a script for "Carry on Spying"

What reasons do the Russians have for trying to hack the OPCW (like the US did to the UN)?
1) find out what the OPCW were told about Skripal affair
2) plant information deliberately
3) find out main players and investigate them
4) find out intelligence and release it publicly
5) just a general Intel op that has no bearing (very unlikely)

It is too early to speculate what the real GRU men were up to, but don't kid yourself that this isn't a common occurrence. Our own agents are caught somewhat regularly doing this (the spy and the rock for instance).

Too many variables to consider at this point.
 
Who should I believe, Britain's professional intelligence agencies or some random guy calling himself 'RaohNS' on the internet?

Hmm...
 
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Craig Murray, bless him.

He made a lot of noise last time over "fake pictures" because two pictures seemingly showed the two Salisbury suspects in the same place individually at precisesly the same.

In reality, the pictures were taken as the two men travelled down separate but identical passageways as they were being processed at the airport. :D

He strikes me as a poor man's Alex Jones. Ignored by the wise, loved by the stupid.
 
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Craig Murray, bless him.

He made a lot of noise last time over "fake pictures" because two pictures seemingly showed the two Salisbury suspects in the same place individually at precisesly the same.

In reality, the pictures were taken as the two men travelled down separate but identical passageways as they were being processed at the airport. :D

Yeah I love how the shills repeatedly gloss over that fact! Something I know to be a fact from using that airport multiple times.
 
Yeah I love how the shills repeatedly gloss over that fact! Something I know to be a fact from using that airport multiple times.

Yes, the shills know what they're doing. Thankfully, despite a hardcore minority of disaffected followers who hang on their every word, more ordinary folk are getting wise to the games.

It won't be long before they get as much ridicule online as they would for spouting their crap down the local pub.
 
I struggle to see how anyone could watch the Russian "tourists" give their excuses for going to Salisbury for a day trip and not think "What a complete load of codswallop".
 
I struggle to see how anyone could watch the Russian "tourists" give their excuses for going to Salisbury for a day trip and not think "What a complete load of codswallop".

Various mental deficiencies, defects or damage would account for it from a medical point of view.
 
This is perhaps the most extraordinary aspect of the whole thing.

Not only did they totally **** up the original mission.

They made a total and utter Horlicks of the damage control.

If it wasn't for the actual dead people, it could be a script for "Carry on Spying"
I have to agree, on the surface this is a fair assessment of what has probably happened thus far.

From the other side having spent some time in Russia and knowing a little of the mentality I can understand them wanting to 'deal with' somebody, who we can all agree, betrayed them. Sergei Skripal himself would not have too much complaint because this is what he ostensible signed up for. That can't be said of his daughter, Dawn Sturgess and the other people directly affected by this total screw up.

One of my best friends is Russian - grew up in Severomorsk, Murmansk Oblast which is a Russian naval town as his step father was in the military. He told me that this whole saga is symptomatic of the attitude of many Russians in that they think they can do what they want and don't really give a $*** about the fall out.
 
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Craig Murray, bless him.

Ambassador, journalist, human rights advocate and historian vs a guy who worked in a shop.
He made a lot of noise last time over "fake pictures" because two pictures seemingly showed the two Salisbury suspects in the same place individually at precisesly the same.

In reality, the pictures were taken as the two men travelled down separate but identical passageways as they were being processed at the airport. :D

Wrong, UK authorities said they did, the men say they walked down the same passage.

Forensic camera examination:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2r5lY1sF08

The evidence there is far more compelling and supportive of the Russian men's statement. The camera fingerprints are identical.

(awaits Yadda to completely ignore this because of his obtuse narrative having a disruption)

He strikes me as a poor man's Alex Jones. Ignored by the wise, loved by the stupid.

UK Govt: "Only Russia made Novichok"
A lie
UK Govt: "It's a military grade biological weapon"
A lie

Timelines released don't match up.

I also notice you completely ignore the evidence from Bellingcat and try and attack a well respected man. To then compare him to Alex Jones just shows how immature and incapable of rational argument and more so your myopic opinion that is fed to you by the Government.

Now I'm prepared to believe the Russian killer story but I need something more concrete than "they came to see a spire, so they MUST be spies who tried to kill Skripal"
 
Ambassador, journalist, human rights advocate and historian vs a guy who worked in a shop.


Wrong, UK authorities said they did, the men say they walked down the same passage.

Forensic camera examination:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2r5lY1sF08

The evidence there is far more compelling and supportive of the Russian men's statement. The camera fingerprints are identical.

(awaits Yadda to completely ignore this because of his obtuse narrative having a disruption)



UK Govt: "Only Russia made Novichok"
A lie
UK Govt: "It's a military grade biological weapon"
A lie

Timelines released don't match up.

I also notice you completely ignore the evidence from Bellingcat and try and attack a well respected man. To then compare him to Alex Jones just shows how immature and incapable of rational argument and more so your myopic opinion that is fed to you by the Government.

Now I'm prepared to believe the Russian killer story but I need something more concrete than "they came to see a spire, so they MUST be spies who tried to kill Skripal"

More nonsense. Bravo, you're on a roll.

For everyone else, contrast this article with the crap posted above. Then chuckle to yourself. :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45454142
 
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