Also people seem to keep skipping over that many of this type of nerve agent were designed for assembling in final form "in the field" and that results aren't always as optimal and hence as lethal that way compared to when done in a lab - which can impact effectiveness.
Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.
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Also people seem to keep skipping over that many of this type of nerve agent were designed for assembling in final form "in the field" and that results aren't always as optimal and hence as lethal that way compared to when done in a lab - which can impact effectiveness.
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What exactly has this got to do with a "Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury"?
Was going back to Panos's post - he was picking and choosing the bits of something to try and prove a point while ignoring all the other variables - something he seems to do quite often.
that sort of approach is the basis for quite a few conspiracy theories and a thread like this seems to attract people who are into that sort of thing
"I can see he [Putin] is a decent person, he wouldn't do such nasty things"
Ahhh...right.....that's me convinced!
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"I can see he [Putin] is a decent person, he wouldn't do such nasty things"
Ahhh...right.....that's me convinced!
haha is that what he said? lmao xD
Good old Noam as well, fanatic muslims normally mention Noam Chomsky, even Osama Bin Laden recommended his books.
What do you actually know about Putin other than what you are told through the Media?"I can see he [Putin] is a decent person, he wouldn't do such nasty things"
Ahhh...right.....that's me convinced!
That's his Dad speaking who will have had access to much more information than you or I, however it goes against general media driven consensus so must be nonsense.
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Lol do they that's the first I've heard of it. He (Naom Chomsky) is a Institute Professor Emeritus at MIT and you are? He has wrote many, many books, gives lectures the World over and you have done what?
It's funny how if you cannot discredit the information then It's better to discredit the person.
By "of interest" do you mean as a study in propaganda? It being Russia Today and Russia Today is basically the media wing of the Russian Government?
So are you saying that Litvinenko's father is knowingly spreading false information? If your son was killed in the manner that his was would you also go on public record and defend his killers, even moving away from the U.K. where you would presumably be protected and into the hands of the person/nation from whom you knew killed your son? You have to admit that wouldn't make sense would it.
It's interesting that we understand what propaganda is when it's attributed to an enemy state such as Hitlers Germany or Putin's Russia, but we refuse to acknowledge that propaganda exists in every nation or state including our own.
You should really have a look into Naom Chomsky who has written and talked extensively about the subject perhaps even have a look at his book Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003IQ16EW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Here's a little short video illustrating The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine.
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It's all Russian, my friend. We no longer have our own. You see, years ago the Russians began a most devious experiment called They'll-Novi-See-This-Coming. It was decided to talk common sense and behave more responsibly in international affairs. Assuming that Russia would always be perceived to have evil intent no matter what Russia did, it was hypothesized that the experiment would ensure that those who sought to distance themselves from Russian propaganda, would also distance themselves from common sense and behaving responsibly, and slowly but irrevocably decay those nations into abandoning all cornerstones of civilization such as the presumption of innocence unless proven guilty. The results of the experiment surpassed their wildest expectations, with the leadership of the countries targeted by the experiment displaying the most lack of common sense and responsible behaviour, in their zeal to show themselves to be the most inured to Russian propaganda. Naturally, this then also had a top-down effect on useful idiots among the general populace, unwilling to risk careers or social standing by speaking truth to power and telling their governments off for their behaviour. Therefore, ultimately, millions of people are falling prey to Russian propaganda even as they seek to escape it. It is said the experiment will continue for as long as Putin smirks whenever the subject is raised.
You'll never hear that on RT ^
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Did I hit a nerve or something? I don't know an awful lot about Noam except Christopher Hitchens said Osama Bin Laden had recommended people read his books and I saw a fundamentalist muslim on youtube who preaches in speakers corner also quote Noams work, so I made the connection, not having a go at Noam at all.
I just thought it was interesting that you associated a person like Naom Chomsky with someone like Osama Bin Laden or a Muslim Fundamentalist It's not very surprising you know very little about him.
Perhaps you should look into him a little more it may open your eyes a bit.
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I might yes, although I think we're probably on different parts of the political spectrum. I'm guessing Noams politics must align somewhere with these types of people otherwise why would they mention him.
Guessing, and therein lies the problem.