Fuel up/down again

[TW]Fox;18121500 said:
I am amazed that you see this - no matter where I go in the country BP is always several pence per litre more than anyone else excluding Texaco.

BP Smithaleigh this evening 126.9, Sainsburys Marsh Mills 121.9. BP Winning Post Halden Hill 127.9, Shell at the bottom of Halden hill 124.9. BP one side of the M6 was, as I said, more than Shell the other side. The BP garage down the road from my hotel in Edinburgh, 124.9. The Esso garage outside the Hotel, 119.9 (Yes, really, I couldnt beleive that either), Sainsburys opposite Esso 118.9.

Wherever I go, BP are there charging more than everyone else.

Oh yes, BP garage one side of the roundabout after the Forth Bridge 124.9, Shell the other side of the SAME roundabout 122.9.

It's consistent wherever I am.
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I have always noticed BP being around more expensive usually by 3p but theres one in the old town of Edinburgh that was 126.9p for unleaded last week elsewhere in town it was around 121p.
 
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Reading has pretty consistent pricing for BP, Shell, and tesco. I guess these are inner town stations though not motorway service stations.

No point selling petrol at a loss/no profit either like most supermarkets. I think most petrol stations now use the fuel as a reason for people to come to the shop, getting a tank full of fuel whilst getting a load of M+S food in one hit. People doing this don't care for a few p extra per litre.
 
So, why has the price gone up by 10p in the space of 6 weeks or so? I don't usually moan about it but it really does feel like a rip off at the pumps now.
 
[TW]Fox;18120067 said:
It's broken then - if you must buy 'Premium diesel' buy it from Shell instead.

The market should punish companies which price themselves at the top end unless the value they add to the product is justified. In the case of BP this is not the case.
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Rubbish. How can you make statements like that with no facts?

Personally I'd rather pay more for 'quality' fuel that some under additised supermarket fuels using second hand ingredients (tesco benzene for example).
 
Simon said:
Rubbish. How can you make statements like that with no facts?

Personally I'd rather pay more for 'quality' fuel that some under additised supermarket fuels using second hand ingredients (tesco benzene for example).
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So, BP fuel is somehow better quality than Esso or Shell then?
 
[TW]Fox;18120067 said:
It's broken then - if you must buy 'Premium diesel' buy it from Shell instead.

The market should punish companies which price themselves at the top end unless the value they add to the product is justified. In the case of BP this is not the case.
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Clarkey said:
So, BP fuel is somehow better quality than Esso or Shell then?
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No but it's the same price around here where there is competition

Your not going to be travelling north on the M6 and get fuel from the southbound side just cause it's cheaper are you.

The pricing has method behind it. Margins are such that a 4p margin vs 1p means you only need to sell a quarter of the fuel to make the same amount of money. The fuel that goes into the different brands is a national pool of all the big fuel providers anyway.

As I mentioned, many people chose the station for convenience or even brand perception. A fuel stations prices also depend on what else the shop has, sometimes competition from local stations is not down to just the price of the fuel on the signs.

Also some stations are oil company owned and others franchised.


Although I guess the people of Ocuk will argue against these business strategies.
 
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I find it crazy that people even pay the pump prices, the latest rise is ridiculous given that the price is mainly VAT and Fuel Duty.
Alternatives are there, LPG , Vegetable oil , Biodiesel...

Sure I will get flamed for suggesting other options than petrol :p


Anyway I'm happy on home brewed biodiesel at ~10p a litre :D
 
The only option to gasoline is LPG but this requires a big investment to make use of it. Anyway LPG is 76p now

Diesel has options yes. But veg oil isn't that cheap and not many people are up for making fuel in their sheds
 
Simon said:
The only option to gasoline is LPG but this requires a big investment to make use of it. Anyway LPG is 76p now

Diesel has options yes. But veg oil isn't that cheap and not many people are up for making fuel in their sheds
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True Petrol does have limited options although high mile drivers will have diesels generally, so options are their for them. I just hate it when people moan and say they have no option but to pay current pump prices, in truth they do have options but involves effort although most people CBA.

Having said that it is sickening the amount of duty on fuel certainly notice it when I'm short of biodiesel, although last time I put diesel in was about 9 months ago and that was £5 :D
 
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Mon said:
I find it crazy that people even pay the pump prices, the latest rise is ridiculous given that the price is mainly VAT and Fuel Duty.
Alternatives are there, LPG , Vegetable oil , Biodiesel...
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LPG. Big investment to fit, kills your engine and by the time you work out the MPG loss you save practically nothing over a diesel engine. The only advantage is if you don't like driving diesels.

Biodiesel. For old engines it's great but moderrn common rail diesels won't run on it, at least my volvo won't. Then you've got to find it, although this will become easier no doubt.

Out of pure conciencious objection i was looking at getting a gassed car, but i don't beleive i would actually save anything. I can get 55-60mpg on a run in the S60, 45 tatting around.
 
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Simon said:
No point selling petrol at a loss/no profit either like most supermarkets. I think most petrol stations now use the fuel as a reason for people to come to the shop, getting a tank full of fuel whilst getting a load of M+S food in one hit. People doing this don't care for a few p extra per litre.
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This is certainly BP's current sales strategy.
 
The Edge said:
LPG. Big investment to fit, kills your engine and by the time you work out the MPG loss you save practically nothing over a diesel engine. The only advantage is if you don't like driving diesels.

Biodiesel. For old engines it's great but moderrn common rail diesels won't run on it, at least my volvo won't. Then you've got to find it, although this will become easier no doubt.

Out of pure conciencious objection i was looking at getting a gassed car, but i don't beleive i would actually save anything. I can get 55-60mpg on a run in the S60, 45 tatting around.
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Well I have done LPG for a year in the Omega. I'm averaging around 25mpg on a run. This wasn't a problem when it was less than half price compared to petrol. With prices the way they are now, I'm chopping mine in for a diesel. It is also a pain in the backside to 1. Find a petrol station that does it and 2. When you find one, they actually have any in.

I have saved quite a bit over the past year when it was 55-59p and petrol was ~£1.10 +.
 
We were all told it would be £1.50 by the time last summer came, and, oh wait, there were similar stories the year before that.

I do not think we'll see it at £1.50 for a very long time yet.
 
James_200sx said:
Wont be long before £2 litre.
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There are no further duty increases scheduled (after the VAT increase) therefore at the moment any future rises are purely off the back of oil price increases (And thus a nice way for the government to try and deflect the blame).

All that can really save us is Sterling becoming a bit less than worthless again.
 
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