Soldato
lol exactly what I thought. Over £700 for 2nd hand 1080Ti is mental
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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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lol exactly what I thought. Over £700 for 2nd hand 1080Ti is mental
Man of Honour
You can get some good deals in there.
ATM I have an EVGA 1080 FE in there at a very reasonable price and don't forget the warranty you get with their cards.
Having said that I have seen some stuff at silly prices.
Looking at anywhere from £625 upto £699 based on US prices but more likely to be starting from £649.99 for FE models listed by nvidia and then other AIBs such as Asus will list them upto £699.
Happy to pay these prices for a 1080? Funny because it's looking about $100 more than the 1080 release price.
Happy to pay these prices for a 1080? Funny because it's looking about $100 more than the 1080 release price.
Then don't max them? Going from max settings to literally one setting down usually listed as very high or high from max makes almost not difference visually. You have to have a still screen, or take screenshots of the same scene to play spot the difference. However the performance difference is noticeable going from max to one setting down. There has been many reviewers pointing this out and gaming like this at 4k a 1080ti can cope fine usually attaining over 60FPS. But however still not quite achieving that 100+FPS or near it. Possibly peaks but near there but averages are some what lower. For you Kaap you have the best and usually more than one card going when gaming so i get why you love to smack max settings. But for most run one card at enthusiast such as a 1080ti or titan X or XP. Only a minute few run more than one and you will find them on these forums. So 4k is possible and over 60FPS on quite a few titles but it has to be at reasonable settings. These are who these monitors are for. Not to forget for FPS games going to 4k and lowering quite a few settings to mix and match to get good visuals as well as 100FPS plus can mean a lot competitively. Trying to shoot some one at distance a 4k screen can make a big difference vs 1080p or 1440p because of the PPI. Makes it easy to spot people at range as well as aim.
I wish you would realise this sometimes lol.
Associate
Interestingly, the cheapo aftermarket 1080 cards started low in the £500 range. The half decent cards did start £550 - £600 though.
I agree on your thoughts about the decent 1180 cards starting at £650+
Man of Honour
I realise that my GTX 1060 can run 2160p/144htz quite easily if I turn down the settings but that is not what the debate is about.
When people debate this subject they want to know what is needed if they want to use max settings.
Basically you can run 2160p/144htz with just about any card but only by reducing settings.
Oddly enough I am not too bothered by visual quality when gaming as I am old and started with DOS based games where image quality was very poor but the gameplay was often very good.
Having said that even @8k maxed with a stack of Titans in SLI you can see the visual differences the highest settings give, the question is whether it is important to the end user and this is something neither you nor me can answer for anyone else.
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So lets take yours as an example then, I personally don't think that the price represents particularly good value for money.
I can buy (today) a brand new 1080 (albeit a different model to yours) from OCUK for £80 more than your used card.
Your price is not out of line with other 2nd hand 1080 prices but for me a 2nd hand part should be considerably cheaper than buying new, £80 just doesn't cut it for me, I would rather take a new card and know that it has no issues or history.
Especially as your card is a FE edition, which (correct me if I am wrong here by the way) is basically the vanilla version of a card and for some odd reason carries an (unwarranted) price premium.
Man of Honour
You are correct that my card is the Founders Edition, this also means that the build quality is better than a lot of the AIB partner cards and this was reflected in the original asking price. Unlike previous generations of reference cards the FE cards are not the cheapest SKUs available. Another plus for my card is it is an EVGA one with all the benefits that goes with their warranty system this is also reflected in their pricing.
When I first purchased these cards they were £625 because they were EVGA + FE and even though I bought 4 of them Gibbo could not do them any cheaper. Having said that there were 1080s that could be had for a lot less but you have to accept the warranty and build quality is not as good.
I can not speak for other people but nearly all my GPUs get very little use and spend most of their time sat on the shelf, or putting it another way I use them enough to know they work well but they have not had heavy use which makes them a good purchase secondhand. The reason for this is my 24/7 gaming PC has 4 way Pascal Titans which means the other cards get little use.
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when people have been listed "launch Price"- need to also state value of the pound. Would be interesting at launch the value of the pound as Palit is the only card bought in £ in the UK - unless thats changed from 2 years ago
You're probably right.
I assume they're more for esports games as this target would be easier to hit. Seems expensive just to play some CS:GO though.
The problem is no support for SLi. You can't put two GTX 1080 Ti and your framerate to actually drop. https://babeltechreviews.com/gtx-1080-ti-sli-performance-25-games/3/
In most games, working SLi will be plenty to reach these 144 FPS at 3840x2160.
In most games, working SLi will be plenty to reach these 144 FPS at 3840x2160.
True, when it appears that the visual difference between ultra high and mixed settings with medium/high/ultra high is not even visible.
Whilst I agree, I'm fairly sure there are a lot of people that want to max a game regardless of the differences. E-Peen and all that...
Soldato
It's got nothing to do with E-Peen, if I invest a couple of grand in a system then I don't like making compromises. It's no more complicated than that.
My 1080ti is a great match for 3440*1440 and whilst I would like to upgrade my monitor to 3440*1440 @ 200Hz, I won't be doing so if the 1180ti can't do it justice.
My 1080ti is a great match for 3440*1440 and whilst I would like to upgrade my monitor to 3440*1440 @ 200Hz, I won't be doing so if the 1180ti can't do it justice.
It isn't a compromise but smart management of the available resources. If you waste your GPU for "effects" which you barely see at all while gaming, why bother?
It is e-peen, yes
So your saying everyone should play on high settings and buy AMD cards?It isn't a compromise but smart management of the available resources. If you waste your GPU for "effects" which you barely see at all while gaming, why bother?
It is e-peen, yes
Soldato
In game settings are about as important as the max setting on your toaster. Up to a point it helps, then beyond does more harm than good.
Generalising the thing to a point where it seems desirable to run all games at max is a false way of thinking about it. All it does is encourage the price gouging we all hate.
Generalising the thing to a point where it seems desirable to run all games at max is a false way of thinking about it. All it does is encourage the price gouging we all hate.
Caporegime
This.
I love my PC and love turning the settings up on my UW 3440x1440. If the 1180Ti gives me a decent upgrade choice, I will grab it and keep the settings up. Nothing to do with e-peen at all for me. It is my hobby and my choice to buy what I can afford.
It isn't a compromise but smart management of the available resources. If you waste your GPU for "effects" which you barely see at all while gaming, why bother?
It is e-peen, yes
I like to just set ultra and play, no messing to see if it works first, no reading of forums on how to gain a solid 60FPS. I imagine I am not alone in this, nor do I think that falls under e-peen.