Poll: General election voting intentions poll

[One]

Because that's exactly how it would work....

There would have to be separate meals, administration of the meals with a monitoring of which child etc.

We have the same at one of the places I work and pre-school children, with allergies, and yes there is a time/cost element in monitoring which children can have what meal, though not an unduly onerous one....apart from having to get the allegen free food, that's ****** expensive!

So yea, it seems like a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut response by the council, but I can see why they think it's the easiest. But then you get plonkers like Rob who use it as 'evidence' that 'they' are taking over!!111

What really annoys me is how people talk about these kids as not being able to eat pork as if they will instantly explode if a bit of pork goes into their mouths. If the kid is four and can't even work out if a sausage is pork or not then why do we believe the child was able to make the informed decision that he shouldn't be eating pork?

Just ban all meats and let these kids grow up vegan tbh. Quite why anyone feels the need to have an animal slaughtered for their lunch is beyond me. You don't even need to eat lunch if you don't want to.

 

[robgmun]

I don't remember many Jordanian missiles falling on the UK between the 2001 and 2011 census

Hang on, you seem to insinuating that there seems to be less Muslims in Britain then before, you do know that opposite is true right?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/d...hers-what-does-this-mean-for-liberal-britain/

Oh and in the answer to that article is that Britain is a little less liberal, which is funny because it was the liberals that imported one of the least liberal cultures in the world, LOL it's going to bite them in the ass it would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that it effects everyone

 

[Freakbro]

Hang on, you seem to insinuating that there seems to be less Muslims in Britain then before, you do know that opposite is true right?

No, I'm insinuating I've actually read the article........in the 2001 census 8300 UK Muslims declared their country of birth as 'other', other options being Ireland, other Europe, Asia, Africa, ME etc etc and in 2011 it was....... 8....when every other optional country increased in line with the general increase overall.

So I was wondering what happened to the 'others'.....

 

[Dark Light]

Less likely? UKIP suddenly the vote of the intelligentsia now?

Well yes, true Europe sceptics are more intelligent then someone that votes Green for example. However, the vast majority of people who "support" UKIP are not true Europe sceptics.

 

[Mynight]

Any evidence to back that up?

The few studies I have seen show 'left wingers' a few points ahead in IQ. Although you'd struggle to notice the increase in everyday conservation.

 

[RoboCod]

Sorry chap, spoilt papers are counted and are declared by the returning officer

Depends on the office it would seem. My OH works at the voting offices many times and whenever she receives a spoilt ballot it just gets torn up and thrown in a bin. No count, no record, no bother.

They really may as well walked in, done a Ricky Gervais office dance and then walked out. At least that would have been amusing.

 

[robgmun]

Any evidence to back that up?

The few studies I have seen show 'left wingers' a few points ahead in IQ. Although you'd struggle to notice the increase in everyday conservation.

And who made those studies?

Also, when MrMoonX posts he doesn't help the image of the Left being intelligent either

 

[elmarko]

Think it would be better if you asked: I voted x and will vote y for the 3 mains parties and other and then 3 main + ukip and other, to give 20 options. That way you can compare it to a known quantity, as the current way has extreme bias. People who use these forums are generally more intelligent and therefor would less likely vote Green, Lib Dem or Labour.

If you look at the vote distribution by educational attainment or IQ the only ones with any significant difference are UKIP being a little lower (due to the over 50's uneducated male bias) & BNP right at the bottom by quite a margin.

The differences between Conservatives, Labour, Lib-dems & Greens are negligible. Your assertion is fundamentally flawed because you simply made it up & it conflicts with a number of actual studies.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

And who made those studies?

Also, when MrMoonX posts he doesn't help the image of the Left being intelligent either

Kettle, black.

Stones in glass houses.

You get my drift.

 

[Hades]

Why do people keep saying that people on these forums are generally more intelligent that the rest of the public? We have quite a large number of people on here from many different parts of society and locations. I would expect the spread to be pretty average to be honest. Liking PC's doesn't suddenly make you more intelligent. I guess the only argument in favour is that you'd "need" to be more intelligent to understand PC's but I don't think that's necessarily true nowadays. I certainly consider myself to be pretty average.

So I'd suggest that the voting pattern here is not that different to the general public.

 

[Diddums]

Does the forum software alphabetize the options or was that done manually?

Ticks my OCD box that does, a right turn on.


Phwoaaaar.

 

[Trifid]

Why do people keep saying that people on these forums are generally more intelligent that the rest of the public? We have quite a large number of people on here from many different parts of society and locations. I would expect the spread to be pretty average to be honest. Liking PC's doesn't suddenly make you more intelligent. I guess the only argument in favour is that you'd "need" to be more intelligent to understand PC's but I don't think that's necessarily true nowadays. I certainly consider myself to be pretty average.

So I'd suggest that the voting pattern here is not that different to the general public.

Presumably it is because building computers is considered a more intelligent hobby then drinking on the streets? If at the lower end of the scale is average intelligence then the average IQ will be higher then average. It's likely the average salary (for those employed full time) is higher then the UK average too (I wouldn't be surprised to hear we have a above average student population bringing the actual average down a fair bit.)

As shown from the last poll and the actual results, we don't make a great sample base.

 

[joeyjojo]

Phwoaaaar.

Thank S-PW, I think he was trying to make it look more like a ballot sheet.

Incidentally, Small Data: How alphabetical ballots skew democracy

 

[robgmun]

With the conference yesterday, Question Time last night and Nigel Farage on the radio this morning, seems like UKIP has kicked into gear over election campaigning

Good phone in this morning i thought

 

[elmarko]

Why do people keep saying that people on these forums are generally more intelligent that the rest of the public? We have quite a large number of people on here from many different parts of society and locations. I would expect the spread to be pretty average to be honest. Liking PC's doesn't suddenly make you more intelligent. I guess the only argument in favour is that you'd "need" to be more intelligent to understand PC's but I don't think that's necessarily true nowadays. I certainly consider myself to be pretty average.

So I'd suggest that the voting pattern here is not that different to the general public.

There is a very strong anti-labour bias which results in our polls being significantly out based on actually election results.

As stated earlier in the thread, we over-state the Conservatives & significantly under-state Labour.

 

[elmarko]

Thank S-PW, I think he was trying to make it look more like a ballot sheet.

Incidentally, Small Data: How alphabetical ballots skew democracy

I'm starting the "Allied atheist alliance" political party.

 

[RoboCod]

Why do people keep saying that people on these forums are generally more intelligent that the rest of the public? We have quite a large number of people on here from many different parts of society and locations. I would expect the spread to be pretty average to be honest. Liking PC's doesn't suddenly make you more intelligent. I guess the only argument in favour is that you'd "need" to be more intelligent to understand PC's but I don't think that's necessarily true nowadays. I certainly consider myself to be pretty average.

So I'd suggest that the voting pattern here is not that different to the general public.

Because elitism and the perception that intelligent = better. It's hard for some people to grasp that it isn't always the case.

 

[LordSplodge]

Kettle, black.

Stones in glass houses.

You get my drift.

 

[Mr Jack]

Why do people keep saying that people on these forums are generally more intelligent that the rest of the public?

I'd say that all forums are, on average, populated by people more intelligent that the average member of the public. Taking part in a forum requires a both minimum level of literacy and a personality that enjoys text-based discussion and debate; I would think that would screen out a decent section of the less bright.

So I'd suggest that the voting pattern here is not that different to the general public.

I'd say the difference between this poll and properly conducted opinion polls suggests that you're wrong there.

 

[robgmun]

Because elitism and the perception that intelligent = better. It's hard for some people to grasp that it isn't always the case.

Trifid hits the nail on the head, it's not like the knuckle draggers you find on Twitter or Facebook!

Most people that came and joined are because they are very interested in computers and technology in general. And it's a very expensive hobby, which needs a good disposable income and some good knowledge in the field of technology which does equate more often than not into higher than average intelligence.

This of course flies in the face of those on the left that like to (very frequently) claim those are on the right have lower intelligence. So either 100's of us here are the exception to the rule or all those studies are bunkum and sponsored by left-wing think tanks.