Poll: General election voting intentions poll

[robgmun]

Oh please what a load of tosh. MrMoonX's posts are all a load of drivel that can be picked apart every single time, i believe he's about the same age as me (late 30's) but writes like a idiot teenager that has just discovered how unfair the world is and thinks extreme socialism is the answer to absolutely everything. He just embarrasses himself and others that share his view every time he opens his mouth, and to be frank amigafan2003 doesn't fair much better. But i'll give you credit for at least trying

 

[platypus]

With the conference yesterday, Question Time last night and Nigel Farage on the radio this morning, seems like UKIP has kicked into gear over election campaigning

Are we to take Farages speech as evidence of UKIPs election then? Ie full of rhetoric and soundbites, and light on policy?

 

[Mr Jack]

ElectionsEtc have posted their latest update. As seems to be the general trend in their model this shows a slight shift towards Labour as their predicted Tory gains fail to materialise. A hung parliament still looks by far the most likely outcome with a Labour-led pact more likely than a Tory-led one.

 

[robgmun]

Are we to take Farages speech as evidence of UKIPs election then? Ie full of rhetoric and soundbites, and light on policy?

Yeah that was a dumb line from the British Biased Corporation They also cut him off half way through so how where they to know huh?? Showing their true colours there! There was a Q&A afterwards with journalists as well.

 

[John40]

With the conference yesterday, Question Time last night and Nigel Farage on the radio this morning, seems like UKIP has kicked into gear over election campaigning

Good phone in this morning i thought

That's astounding that 400 professors get money from Europe to teach Economics and History biased in favour of Europe.

As traditionally lecturers are mainly far left I should imagine they didn't need much persuading.

 

[robgmun]

That's astounding that 400 professors get money from Europe to teach Economics and History biased in favour of Europe.

As traditionally lecturers are mainly far left I should imagine they didn't need much persuading.

Oh i wouldn't be surprised at all if the same was happening in secondary schools up and down the country to promote the EU and left-wing thinking.

This is the reason why Labour are desperate to lower the voting age to 16 because they know that most children are brainwashed to be socialists and liberals in schools and universities (and actively try to compare UKIP to the BNP and NF to Hitler)

 

[Tunney]

This of course flies in the face of those on the left that like to (very frequently) claim those are on the right have lower intelligence. So either 100's of us here are the exception to the rule or all those studies are bunkum and sponsored by left-wing think tanks.

The original research that you mention concludes that the better educated someone is, the more likely they are to vote for left-wing parties. Measuring someone's level of education is a lot easier than measuring their intelligence.

Education and intelligence aren't the same thing although there is a correlation between the two.

 

[RoboCod]

Intelligence is completely unrelated to who you vote.

 

[robgmun]

Intelligence is completely unrelated to who you vote.

Indeed, in fact an Intelligence would see value in the stance of most parties but then just choose which closest resembles their world view.

 

[RoboCod]

And after considering that, they may only consider what benefits themselves. It all depends what your outlook and motives are.

If someone thinks they vote for someone just because they believe themselves to be intelligent (and therefore correct) then I would argue that in fact they actually are not. That or they are just bigoted. This is the basic principle of democracy, freedom to choose without judgement.(but if you vote green, you're an idiot )

 

[robgmun]

Can't argue with that

 

[platypus]

There was a Q&A afterwards with journalists as well.

Well that would have been interesting to see. Is it available anywhere?

 

[joeyjojo]

I don't trust Cameron, Labour will probably bankrupt us all in after one day in power, and the Green party are on another planet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFn8RIXOBE

Hadn't seen this before, thanks for sharing.

Also, remember that voters impression of an interview or debate are heavily coloured by their pre-existing views. You may feel that it was a car crash for the Greens but that doesn't mean that people inclined to vote Green did.

This is true. I actually think she did a pretty good job, no worse than most politicians when confronted by probing questions from Andrew Neil.

Sure several of the policies mentioned are quite "radical", but one must realise Neil is going to highlight whichever ones cause the most of a stir to make it an exciting interview.

She was quite evasive on the specifics in places but again most campaigning politicians are like this and you have to give the Greens a bit of leeway as they don't yet have much practical experience in Westminster (like the Lib Dems at the previous election but more so).

The final policy was one I hadn't heard before actually and really like, about not making it illegal to be a member of an organisation e.g. al-Qaeda. This is genius, and a sharp U-turn from the "thought-police" world we are currently heading towards with increasing state surveillance.

Will be interesting to see how future interviews go and whether they can get the numbers to work. Until then I'm down as Green on this poll.

 

[Judgeneo]

Oh i wouldn't be surprised at all if the same was happening in secondary schools up and down the country to promote the EU and left-wing thinking.

This is the reason why Labour are desperate to lower the voting age to 16 because they know that most children are brainwashed to be socialists and liberals in schools and universities (and actively try to compare UKIP to the BNP and NF to Hitler)

This happened in my school, we had a lesson devoted to how the EU, followed by a debate. The only information shown about the EU, was published by the EU itself. So when it came to the "debate", the only evidence that people had saw was pro-EU.

The position in universities is worse, as you said there are 400 or so economics professors who receive grants for pro-EU research, but the amount of money that comes directly from the EU means that academics are extremely reluctant to be negative about it. I know personally of people being asked to re-write economics papers as they were too critical of the EU over funding concerns.

 

[v0n]

With the conference yesterday, Question Time last night and Nigel Farage on the radio this morning, seems like UKIP has kicked into gear over election campaigning

Good phone in this morning i thought

Is that the interview where Nigel makes stuff up about EU sponsoring professors in Universities and then lies about how he never personally participated in any tax evasion scheme?

 

[robgmun]

Well that would have been interesting to see. Is it available anywhere?

And the full speech that the BBC didn't show on TV.

 

[robgmun]

Is that the interview where Nigel makes stuff up about EU sponsoring professors in Universities and then lies about how he never personally participated in any tax evasion scheme?

Well you know what i'm going to ask you now, i assume you have proof on stand by. And i presume you saw Judgeneo's post?

And i there was a story just now on Daily Politics on a co-op school that looks very very suspect, i'll post it as soon as it's up on iPlayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b052sw76/daily-politics-13022015

Starts at 23:25

Also before that you can watch left-wing tosspot owen jones get totally unstuck on tax-avoidance

 

[spudbynight]

Any evidence to back that up?

The few studies I have seen show 'left wingers' a few points ahead in IQ. Although you'd struggle to notice the increase in everyday conservation.

Euroscepticism isn't a left right issue.

 

[elmarko]

Oh i wouldn't be surprised at all if the same was happening in secondary schools up and down the country to promote the EU and left-wing thinking.

This is the reason why Labour are desperate to lower the voting age to 16 because they know that most children are brainwashed to be socialists and liberals in schools and universities (and actively try to compare UKIP to the BNP and NF to Hitler)

Could you explain to which aspects of liberalism you disagree with specifically?.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

and to be frank amigafan2003 doesn't fair much better

Are you insunuating I lack intelligence?

Go on then, state your case.