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Honestly, I start reading about how the handicap system works and my brain turs to slurry. I should really make the effort though, don't you need 8 full scorecards to get it relatively accurate to start with?
Handicaps are simple.
They are how many extra shows you get over 18 holes, to take your total score to equal the course Par.

eg. You shot 90 on a Par72 course - 18 Handicap.
That means you get 1 extra shot per hole on every hole.

If you only play the same course over and over, you can give yourself a handicap, it's not difficult to work out.
Lets say you only have 5 cards, take the 3 best scores from those 5 cards. Lets say you shot:
30 over *
35 over *
40 over
50 over
28 over *

Take your best 3 (I've starred them)
Get the average of these. (28+30+35)/3 = 31. Your handicap is 31 (unofficially), as it's not gone through the relevant channels to be official), but it's roughly the same.

If you then have 31 extra shots per hole, that's +1 on every hole to start with, so that's taken 18 from your 31 handicap, leaving you with 13 left.
Look at the scoresheet for your course, holes with SI 1 to 13.... you get 2 shots, rather than 1.
That's all the extra shots you get.

Update your scorecard to say these are now Par+1 or Par+2 and play to those scores. You *should* be able to reach your new par on all of those holes. That's what playing to your handicap means.
Mentally, don't try to BEAT those par's and get birdies against your new Par otherwise you might as well just be ignoring the updates. Try to get your new pars every hole.
Once you've done this, you'll be much more relaxed and you should be hitting much easier shots, these are shots you know you can make 90% of the time.

These types of shots are something like... after your drive, 2nd shot in.. you have 180 to the hole. Break this up to 2x 90 yard shots. Or a a 120 yard and a 60 yarder. Whatever is most comfortable for you. You're scores will fly down.
Sorry for the long one!
 
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Handicaps are simple.
They are how many extra shows you get over 18 holes, to take your total score to equal the course Par.

eg. You shot 90 on a Par72 course - 18 Handicap.
That means you get 1 extra shot per hole on every hole.

If you only play the same course over and over, you can give yourself a handicap, it's not difficult to work out.
Lets say you only have 5 cards, take the 3 best scores from those 5 cards. Lets say you shot:
30 over *
35 over *
40 over
50 over
28 over *

Take your best 3 (I've starred them)
Get the average of these. (28+30+35)/3 = 31. Your handicap is 31 (unofficially), as it's not gone through the relevant channels to be official), but it's roughly the same.

If you then have 31 extra shots per hole, that's +1 on every hole to start with, so that's taken 18 from your 31 handicap, leaving you with 13 left.
Look at the scoresheet for your course, holes with SI 1 to 13.... you get 2 shots, rather than 1.
That's all the extra shots you get.

Update your scorecard to say these are now Par+1 or Par+2 and play to those scores. You *should* be able to reach your new par on all of those holes. That's what playing to your handicap means.
Mentally, don't try to BEAT those par's and get birdies against your new Par otherwise you might as well just be ignoring the updates. Try to get your new pars every hole.
Once you've done this, you'll be much more relaxed and you should be hitting much easier shots, these are shots you know you can make 90% of the time.

These types of shots are something like... after your drive, 2nd shot in.. you have 180 to the hole. Break this up to 2x 90 yard shots. Or a a 120 yard and a 60 yarder. Whatever is most comfortable for you. You're scores will fly down.
Sorry for the long one!

Absolute legend mate! Genuinely a lot easier to understand then the official stuff on websites. I have reading dyslexia and unless something is literally spelt out to me piecemeal I really struggle, so big thanks for that :)

So I should keep an 'unofficial' handicap as I only play one or two courses you think?
 
Absolute legend mate! Genuinely a lot easier to understand then the official stuff on websites. I have reading dyslexia and unless something is literally spelt out to me piecemeal I really struggle, so big thanks for that :)

So I should keep an 'unofficial' handicap as I only play one or two courses you think?
Oh absolutely!
It'll give you something to aim for, every round. Rather than just going out and shooting any old score. Whatever helps you get better, as golf is such a mental game you play with yourself on the course.
 
Honestly, I start reading about how the handicap system works and my brain turs to slurry. I should really make the effort though, don't you need 8 full scorecards to get it relatively accurate to start with?

if you have 3 score cards currently put them into https://www.golfshake.com/
it'll generate you a handicap which you can use as a reference.
 
yeah - 3 rounds gets you a handicap - the more you play the more "accurate" it becomes a reflection of your golf.

Effectively once you play more it becomes your "best" 8 from your last 20 rounds on a rolling basis.... So as you add a new score on, your 20th one drops off.

It's more in tune with how you are playing at that time, rather than the older system which could be a massive cut after one good round, and then just nothing but adding 0.1 back on all the time after that.
 
also, when on the tee, read the handicap index and think about why it might be what it is. is there water? OOB? a dogleg?

e.g. a course near me, the stroke 1 (hardest hole) is a straight par 4 with no trees. but it's out of bounds on both sides of an incredibly wide fairway. for many many players it's a par 6 for them (any golfer with a handicap >18). but because it's a 400yd par 4, golfers pull out their driver and promptly hit out of bounds. as a par 6, driver is not necessary. hit three 7 irons and you'll be close to the green, chip and two putts and you've got a respectable 6 instead of an 8 or worse. as you get better, move to a 6-iron to have a chance of a 5, then maybe a 3W but never driver!
 
also, when on the tee, read the handicap index and think about why it might be what it is. is there water? OOB? a dogleg?

e.g. a course near me, the stroke 1 (hardest hole) is a straight par 4 with no trees. but it's out of bounds on both sides of an incredibly wide fairway. for many many players it's a par 6 for them (any golfer with a handicap >18). but because it's a 400yd par 4, golfers pull out their driver and promptly hit out of bounds. as a par 6, driver is not necessary. hit three 7 irons and you'll be close to the green, chip and two putts and you've got a respectable 6 instead of an 8 or worse. as you get better, move to a 6-iron to have a chance of a 5, then maybe a 3W but never driver!

This is also great advice for even low handicap golfers.
If you know you can hit a 7iron 160/170 then like you say why not hit a 7iron twice. On a stroke index 1 walking off with a Par or handicap par (shooting a 5) is far more acceptable.

I bet the trouble with your fairway being so wide is that you look at it and your mind instantly tells you it's wide enough for a driver :cry:
 
This is also great advice for even low handicap golfers.
If you know you can hit a 7iron 160/170 then like you say why not hit a 7iron twice. On a stroke index 1 walking off with a Par or handicap par (shooting a 5) is far more acceptable.

I bet the trouble with your fairway being so wide is that you look at it and your mind instantly tells you it's wide enough for a driver :cry:
I've only been playing for about 18 months and the guy I play with is a 15 handicapper. There's one hole on a course we play that he still insists on hitting driver is the way forward and I always go off it with a 5 iron - I can't remember the last time he beat me on that hole because he slings the ball out of bounds practically every time. Doesn't normally bother him because he generally beats me on at least another 15 holes! :D

Small victories and all that...
 
you'd have thought wouldn't you :confused:

but the visually higher lofted is actually the 3H at 19deg.
I think I need to go and get them checked.

Of course... :p

I have wondered that actually, I bought my clubs and have no idea what the loft of each club is, well except the 60-degree wedge I bought seperately. I assume shops/people that work on clubs have the tools/ability to measure that on clubs. Probably not really worth it/wouldn't change anything though.
 
Just booked off a few Mondays in November specifically for a few rounds on some different courses. Can anyone recommend anywhere slightly forgiving in or around Birmingham? I've played Edgbaston, Dudley, Calderfield and Dartmouth but fancy somewhere a little different but not too challenging.
 
Just booked off a few Mondays in November specifically for a few rounds on some different courses. Can anyone recommend anywhere slightly forgiving in or around Birmingham? I've played Edgbaston, Dudley, Calderfield and Dartmouth but fancy somewhere a little different but not too challenging.

Perton Park is relatively flat and forgiving too. https://www.pertongolfclub.co.uk/
Also you could try West Midlands Golf Course. http://www.westmidlandsgolfclub.co.uk/
Also Walsall. Never played but had a couple of good reviews. https://www.walsallgolfclub.co.uk/


If you travel I'd say you could come and meet me over at Wharton Park, Bewdley. Trouble is I work every Monday. https://www.whartonpark.co.uk/
 
Perton Park is relatively flat and forgiving too. https://www.pertongolfclub.co.uk/
Also you could try West Midlands Golf Course. http://www.westmidlandsgolfclub.co.uk/
Also Walsall. Never played but had a couple of good reviews. https://www.walsallgolfclub.co.uk/


If you travel I'd say you could come and meet me over at Wharton Park, Bewdley. Trouble is I work every Monday. https://www.whartonpark.co.uk/

Cheers for the suggestions!

Would love to meet up mate but as I don't drive at present it'd be a bit of a hellish journey on public transport as I live in Great Barr...
 
I'm over towards Wall Heath.

Near you have you tried Calderfields? https://calderfieldsgolfclub.co.uk/golf/
also Little Aston is supposed to be unreal. https://www.littleastongolf.co.uk/

Calderfield I've really enjoyed the few times I've been from a course perspective, but had a one or two crappy experiences with a few members so try to avoid generally.
With regards Little Aston, a lot of the courses Sutton way are beautiful but getting a tee time is almost impossible within 2 months notice as a visitor and the prices can be a little on the expensive side which is fine if I'm on my own, but the people I go with will struggle to justify spending £60+ at this time of year.
 
Calderfield I've really enjoyed the few times I've been from a course perspective, but had a one or two crappy experiences with a few members so try to avoid generally.
With regards Little Aston, a lot of the courses Sutton way are beautiful but getting a tee time is almost impossible within 2 months notice as a visitor and the prices can be a little on the expensive side which is fine if I'm on my own, but the people I go with will struggle to justify spending £60+ at this time of year.
I'd meet you at Calderfields. What's it like this time of year?
 
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