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GT200 GTX280/260 "official specs"

Just to be clear Nvidia will be in trouble

They will have the fastest GPU at £400 which wont mean squat.

The 4870xt or 4850pro will give fantastic bang for the buck performance which nvidia wont have an answer to in the only price points that matter.

Profits arent made in the £300+ card bracket, they are made in in the £80 - £200 bracket and OEM add ins

I think this is the point that most people are missing. Regardless of whether NV has the "fastest" card in its line up, it doesn't instantly = NV being the "top company". We know that the big profits are made in the mid range anyway so they know that's realistically where they need to aim. They know that if they offer performance cards for bottom prices, they're gonna make money easily. The fact that their fabrication process for RV770s is much simpler than GT200 is almost there for an instant "win". The 2900, while being decent on the performance side, had a poor performance to wattage ratio which made it appear much worse. Once the RV670s made it out, everything "turned" so to speak. The 3870 and 3850s had great performance/price/power consumption ratio. This forced NV to drop the price of the 8800GTs. The 3850 made it particularly well because NV didn't have anything to compete with it, their 256MB 8800GTs were no where to be seen (I don't even know if you can get them at all now). I think this is going to be the case again. ATi will get their cards out for 'cheap', while NV are struggling with the yeilds of the GT200s and costing themselves more money than is really necessary.

Also, there's no such card/s as 4870XT or 4850pro! They stopped using suffixes ages ago now! XT/Pro is redundant now as only a number is needed, otherwise it wouldn't be 4850 & 4870, it's just be 4800 Pro and XT :rolleyes: :p
 
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I think its great that ATI cards are now in things like dell pcs...

It is, shows they're doing pretty well actually. That's where the real money comes from for these companies, OEM deals with the likes of DELL.

Woohoo! 500 posts! :D go me!
 
The real money comes, yes, but not necessarily profit - it is turnover. We saw that withthe AMD / Dell deal for CPUs -AMD were barely breaking even and ultimately had huge supply problems. It turned over a mountain of cash for them, which was useful to maintain payments on their debt mountain, but it didn't turn much profit at all.
 
The real money comes, yes, but not necessarily profit - it is turnover. We saw that withthe AMD / Dell deal for CPUs -AMD were barely breaking even and ultimately had huge supply problems. It turned over a mountain of cash for them, which was useful to maintain payments on their debt mountain, but it didn't turn much profit at all.

On the graphics's cards side of it i think and hope amd have turned a corner as their 55 mn process seams quite good with power and heat and with the 4*** i am hoping speed as well as they getting squeezed a bit between intel and nvidia.
I hope amd and nvidia get back on equal terms to push things forward even amd on top to make nvidia fight back a bit.
 
On the graphics's cards side of it i think and hope amd have turned a corner as their 55 mn process seams quite good with power and heat and with the 4*** i am hoping speed as well as they getting squeezed a bit between intel and nvidia.
I hope amd and nvidia get back on equal terms to push things forward even amd on top to make nvidia fight back a bit.

Me too, i would love to be back on a pure AMD/ATI platform again next year, i just don't want to spend Nvidia amounts of money(bar the 8800GT, which was a fantastic card), and i really hate the fact that Intel will block overclocking.
 
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Here are some close-up shots of a stripped down GeForce GTX 280 card for you guys to enjoy over the weekend. The markings on the IHS is labeled as G200-300-A2 and has a total of 16 Hynix 0.8ns GDDR3 memory chips.
 
I'm so close to buy a 9800gtx now as I have sold my old and faithful 7900 gto 512 and I'm currently with an old crappy 7300se 64mb :P.

Do you think the differences with the gtx 260 will be high compared to the current 9800gtx cards?

Also 9800gtx's are around £180-£220 and gtx260 probably will be £240-£300
 
I'm so close to buy a 9800gtx now as I have sold my old and faithful 7900 gto 512 and I'm currently with an old crappy 7300se 64mb :P.

Do you think the differences with the gtx 260 will be high compared to the current 9800gtx cards?

Also 9800gtx's are around £180-£220 and gtx260 probably will be £240-£300

The 9800GTX are a waste of money.

The GT200 will destroy that card thats really like a 8800GTS 512mb thats also 60 quid cheaper.
 
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