With vat, shipping and a little bit extra which we seem to pay in the uk, it is parity.
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With vat, shipping and a little bit extra which we seem to pay in the uk, it is parity.
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Looking at the state of the 1070 and 1080, most are still as "Pre Order" which means there is a delay somewhere and i doubt its shipping, if its a delay at Fab end, and they are going to use this same chip albeit cut down to server the lower end of the market, what does that say about Nvidia?
That perhaps they have not sold as many of their overpriced higher end cards as they hoped so to counter AMDs cheaper offering they are knee jerking and pulling the better chip to cut it down and provide it at the lower end just to compete for sales there?
Would that mean the wait for the higher end cards will go on? i hardly think it will worry Nvidia anyhow, as its not like AMD have anything to offer in that space right now or for a while, so they can afford to take a hit on that end, cut down the chips, flog them off cheaper at the lower tier...
Will be interesting to see what stock of the 1060 is like
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This card looks to have all the same problems as the lower Maxwell variants. It will look good at launch but suffer later on due to it's lower spec compared to the Rx480. I have no doubt people will lap it up but with only 192.2 GB/s memory bandwidth i see this dropping off like a gtx960.
I have no doubt it will sell well though but seeing this i would drop my money on the Sapphire Nitro and be done with it.
I have no doubt it will sell well though but seeing this i would drop my money on the Sapphire Nitro and be done with it.
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So crappier looking fools edition here to inflate aib prices, expect low availability and gouging on this low spec, overpriced POS.
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Great post, 10/10, would read again.
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Shame no 8 pin just incase we get a copy of what the 480 had with power lol.
interesting positioning in the market. Possibly better than the 480 and more expensive. It looks like Nvidia don't even want to compete at the low end at all, sticking to mid/high-end. Don't blame them... that's where the margins are.
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It'll be interesting to see how much of this is true but as I said earlier, all of it could be true and they'll still sell like crazy because Nvidia.
Its MSRP is 10$ more than the 480X. The POS also seems like its going to be faster and more power efficient as well.
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sour grapes much?
Enthusiasts already got 1070 and 1080's by the bucket. The cheap end already has the RX480. If 1060 is no good, the sales will reflect it as there are not many left to actually get it. it's simple economics as pretty much all angles have already been covered.
Don't like it? Don't buy it, there's your statement.
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This might actually work in AMD's favour and ironically against their current philosophy of not wanting to be the "budget" brand...
If this card drops at a higher price point and for not much more performance, with the current state of the £, the budget conscious will probably opt for the cheaper AMD cards if theres not much in it performance wise.
Nvidia could effectively price themselves out of the bracket the card should be aimed at lol
Early days man. There'll be lower end cards soon enough.
In terms of pricing, so long as Nvidia own the marketshare and have flagship cards that give them the 'performance' brand association, they'll get away with pricing their lower end cards a bit higher.
I think people forget that AMD's more aggressive pricing isn't some altruistic ideology, but one of necessity for them in order to compete and claw back marketshare.
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Well my 7950 is only around 500 points behind this.. using same CPU too.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/12973139?
2 469 with AMD Radeon HD 7950(1x) and Intel Core i7-6700K
Graphics Score 2 461
Physics Score 14 531
Combined Score 1 112
This is why i havnt bothered to get a 480.. or wont bother to get a 1060 either.
Suppose i'll keep waiting for Vega..
The wait goes on.. LoL
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Oh, if i ever did get a 480 then this would be the 480 i purchase, still waiting for benches though
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No, it isn't.
Currently a $250 RRP translates to a £230 RRP, including VAT.
More than £230 is not the fault of Brexit or exchange rates.
How can you possibly think dollar parity or worse is anything but retailers looking for a bit more profit?
Maths isn't ambiguous. 1.2/1.3 = 0.923. Not 1.
If you pay more you are simply giving more money to the retailers, and that's a fact.
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Really? by the bucket? hmmm ok..... *Pre-Order* is by the bucket... then sure...
Expect that wait for the 1070 and 1080 to get a bit longer also if its true Nvidia cut down that chip for this card
Enjoy...Sure it is. If the pound were stable, it'd be a different story. But it seems to continue to fall. And with how businesses handle their payments for imported goods, it means that they need to build in safeguards for further exchange rate woes.
We also have no idea what kind of retailer margins are built in the MSRP.
This has *everything* to do with Brexit and the exchange rates.
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Really? by the bucket? hmmm ok..... *Pre-Order* is by the bucket... then sure...
Expect that wait for the 1070 and 1080 to get a bit longer also if its true Nvidia cut down that chip for this card
I still see lots of people waiting to get the specific card they want not rushing to buy 480's or anything else and pretty sure they won't buy 1060's either. The wait has nothing to do with it, it just reinforces my point.
1060 does not even seem to be targeted at the low end of the market, it sure feels like Nvidia does not even care about that end at all.
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SO a card that wins on power and is 5% faster in DX11, but gets trounced in DX12.... when the majority of all high performance requiring, best graphics, most demanding games out over the period you'll have the graphics card will be DX12.
IF the lack of availability that is being rumoured is true, that is why Nvidia seems set on semi paper launching their whole range asap, because you give out a few cards, get reviews done and push mostly DX11 benchmarks and the card is established as a winner.
If true wide availability isn't before the end of the year and 3-4, what is there likely to be, BF1, Deus Ex, Gears of War 4, Watch Dogs 2 are all confirmed. Imagine launching on or behind any of these big games, BF1 in particular, and seeing AMD have a massive effective gain compared to Nvidia. Can review sites ignore BF1 as a staple performance benchmark, or Gears, or Deus Ex, particularly if they look better than other games and are popular and widely played.
SO launch asap, get mostly DX11 benchmark games, win and even if they get beaten soundly in 8/10 new games and all the biggest games of the next two years people will still when deciding to google reviews of cards look up a 1060 and see launch reviews where it 'wins' and the average user will not realise what the deal is in newer games. The same review 3 months from now with 3-4 big new AAA games all in DX12 where the 1060 gets destroyed and when people google those reviews in a years time looking for a new card they see a RX480 is the way to go.
Though the price of 1070/1080 is literally absurd, at least you'd be buying a higher end core that is genuinely fast. But 1060, it's going to get pummelled by a RX480 in most upcoming games.
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