GTX 1060

SiDeards73 · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:48

Mauller said:
Pretty much, i expect to only see a trickle of them at launch compared to the RX480.

Atleast AMD done one thing right with the 480 launch, made sure they had a lot of cards available...

Sargatanas2511 · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:49

SiDeards73 said:
Atleast AMD done one thing right with the 480 launch, made sure they had a lot of cards available...

They gave themselves a good amount of time to build stock. Nvidia have either been stocking this silently, or it's a kneejerk to try and stifle AMD's sales with limited stock.

Sargatanas2511 · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:53

It looks to me like it'll be a good little card for sure. It however also looks like Nvidia have tried to make sure that anyone that buys one will have to upgrade in <2 years by disabling SLi and lowering VRAM.

Mauller · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:53

Sargatanas2511 said:
They gave themselves a good amount of time to build stock. Nvidia have either been stocking this silently, or it's a kneejerk to try and stifle AMD's sales with limited stock.

Well if they are cutting down GP104 further for the initial batches of 1060, then it points to them having production and yield issues.

Considering how close people got these test parts to the launch, i don't believe they were just using cut down GP104 as an example of what the performance would be like either.

Calo · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:53

This is great news.
A proper VR gaming card at £250 is a massive boost
In two years time I will consider getting one when VR is worth it

Mind you, AMD may respond with a better one by then

Looking good for a VR future though.

Skribla · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:53

TheRealDeal said:
All my point is from what we know the Nitro will cost £249.99 here at OCUK or at least that's what Gibbo said. This is looking to cost upwards of that at this time if the pricing is like the gtx1070 where most cards are around the founders editions $299. I am comparing what you get for your money so not going at some view point. Sure i might get a surprise and you can pick up a decent cooler for the gtx1060 at £250 but i am not holding my breath.

But if this card is faster and more power efficient then obviously a bit of a higher price £20-£50 is fine not too many people are going to be bothered. I would be interested to see actually how well the Nitro overclocks compared to a ref 1060 as they are suppose to be able to hit 2GHz.

beany_bot · 7 Jul 2016 at 12:56

Gregster said:
No idea. I work in shipping however at a level of taking containers off the ships by operating the ship to shore cranes. That is as far as I get to knowing what is what with how shipping works.

Me neither, Only thing I know (mentioned earlier) is that a large container is about £750 from USA to UK, (for joe public like me). You can get tens of thousands of GPU boxes in a container. So the £20/30/40/50 price increases for "shipping" doesn't wash with me. It costs pennies per card to ship them from USA to UK.

Skribla · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:02

You don't just pay for the cards + the container though you would have to pay Import TAX/custom charges on the units inside the container.

Gibbo · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:02

beany_bot said:
Me neither, Only thing I know (mentioned earlier) is that a large container is about £750 from USA to UK, (for joe public like me). You can get tens of thousands of GPU boxes in a container. So the £20/30/40/50 price increases for "shipping" doesn't wash with me. It costs pennies per card to ship them from USA to UK.

No one ships volatile computer components in a container by sea lol.

All components get air freighted or driven by truck. We need deliveries in sub one week as stock needs to be sold ideally before payment is due.

Sea shipments 6-8 weeks so we'd pay for goods before they even arrive.

SiDeards73 · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:03

Skribla said:
But if this card is faster and more power efficient then obviously a bit of a higher price £20-£50 is fine not too many people are going to be bothered. I would be interested to see actually how well the Nitro overclocks compared to a ref 1060 as they are suppose to be able to hit 2GHz.

Can you link where you are getting all this info from please? i am intrigued to read this, especially the OC information...

fs123 · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:04

Gregster said:
In fairness, you ranting like this in an NVidia 1060 thread is a bit over the top. These will sell like hotcakes, as will the 480. I like the discussion as well, regardless of buying or not buying and that is what the basis of a forum is. You calling people NVidia fans is fine though and I know many of those and I know many AMD fans and they have a tendency of going into threads and never ever looking at the good points and will only see the bad. That is the sad part about it.

The sad part is the pricing mate. I saw many posts saying the 480 is not worth it because it's only 970 performance and the 970 was available 2 years ago. Isn't it hypocritical now to say the 1060 is all fine when it is essentially the same scenario but with a worse price point?

I am not looking at any bad points of the card since we don't know how it performs yet. What I can look at is the pricing problem we seem to be experiencing because Nvidia is moving the price up a tier for each segment. I certainly do not like it and would still complain if AMD had done the same.

In fact I have reservations for the 480 too regarding pricing since I think it should be £200 or less ideally but Brexit has obviously affected that a lot.
In regards to the 1060 I don't think Nvidia should be excused for moving the RRP up to 970 levels on a 970 segment card no matter if it performs like a 980.

The whole premise of getting higher performance at existing price points for the next gen cards has been shot to pieces by Nvidia.

Skribla · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:05

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-unleashed-249-usd/

kalniel · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:09

beany_bot said:
Me neither, Only thing I know (mentioned earlier) is that a large container is about £750 from USA to UK, (for joe public like me). You can get tens of thousands of GPU boxes in a container. So the £20/30/40/50 price increases for "shipping" doesn't wash with me. It costs pennies per card to ship them from USA to UK.

Skribla said:
You don't just pay for the cards + the container though you would have to pay Import TAX/custom charges on the units inside the container.

1) These cards won't be made in the USA. They'll be made in China. So regardless of USA or UK they will involve a lot of shipping.

2) USA is larger market, so shipping costs per unit will be lower, but logistics once landfall is reached cost more than the UK (it's big).

3) There's no import duty on graphics cards, just VAT. Some states have Sales Tax too.

4) There's other overheads - wage structures in UK are vastly different to the US.

5) None of this is terribly relevant. Market value matters far more than margins. Ie, you charge what the market will bear as long as it's still profitable. In times of limited stock the market will bear higher prices, and you will want to ensure you get products to the highest revenue areas.

Skribla said:
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-unleashed-249-usd/

Why have you just copied the URL mentioned in the opening post without adding anything useful?

southernorth · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:09

This announcement must mean all those tech Youtuber's must have cards by now for benchmarking. When the videos start emerging of real performance, then I might be interested.

Evian · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:11

stulid said:
So the RX480 is doomed within 2 weeks of release. Great.

This LOL.

Mr Latte · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:11

So, one feature Nvidia have and I liked the look of was SMP demonstrated during the 1080 reveal. Yet for anyone that bought a 1080/1070 or this, what are the first titles supported or is it just a tech demonstration that could take 2 years to come to actual games?

Eager to see how RX480 AIB compare over the weeks/month. Simple, if wanting the best GPU for under £300, taking in all factors/options then really until products are available and reviews are in we wont know.

SiDeards73 · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:12

Skribla said:
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-unleashed-249-usd/

Oooh right WCCF... yeah that reliable font of information...

From that Article

"The GeForce GTX 1060 is based on the GP106 GPU which features 1280 CUDA cores and 80 TMUs. The card comes at clock speeds of 1506 MHz but boosts all the way up to 1708 MHz. NVIDIA has a massive lead in terms of core frequencies with TSMC’s 16nm FF process node and that shows as their chips are built to clock beyond 2 GHz when overclocked. The pixel fill rate for this chip is 72.3 GPixel/s while the texture fill rate is 159.6 GTexel/s."

That is speculation at best.....

4/10 - please try harder, especially with some reliable information, its fairly obvious to anyone who reads these forums that particular site is a clickbait heaven, that spouts utter nonsense and constantly contradicts itself..

Good try though Drivla err Skribla

southernorth · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:14

Also the pricing seems very dubious. $249 for custom models and $299 for founders could easily become +$75 in either case

StrongSad · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:15

The GeForce GTX 1060 is said to be 15% better than the Radeon RX 480 at stock speeds, up to 25% better in VR Gaming thanks to NVIDIA’s Simultaneous Multi-Projection Technology and more than 40% better in terms of power efficiency.

Soooo

How much faster than a 480 when clocked and for that matter the 980.

Also no mention of the 3GB version and of course there is no SLI with these....

Skribla · 7 Jul 2016 at 13:22

fs123 said:
The sad part is the pricing mate. I saw many posts saying the 480 is not worth it because it's only 970 performance and the 970 was available 2 years ago. Isn't it hypocritical now to say the 1060 is all fine when it is essentially the same scenario but with a worse price point?

I am not looking at any bad points of the card since we don't know how it performs yet. What I can look at is the pricing problem we seem to be experiencing because Nvidia is moving the price up a tier for each segment. I certainly do not like it and would still complain if AMD had done the same.

In fact I have reservations for the 480 too regarding pricing since I think it should be £200 or less ideally but Brexit has obviously affected that a lot.
In regards to the 1060 I don't think Nvidia should be excused for moving the RRP up to 970 levels on a 970 segment card no matter if it performs like a 980.

The whole premise of getting higher performance at existing price points for the next gen cards has been shot to pieces by Nvidia.

It depends on how your looking at it at a purely price point perspective then yes Nvidia fans may seem a bit hypocritical if you look form a architecture point of view the not really as it should be around 980 performance using just 1280 CUDA cores, 192-bit bus and at 120w and compare that with 14nm FinFET, 2304SPs with 256bit bus and at 160 watts from my perspective with a 50% bigger core count, bigger bus size and more power I was really expecting well more to be honest.