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GTX 1060

exactly and my point was that even with some in stock some people are still waiting for their preferred cards and that's fair enough. This isn't a card you ditch after 2 months so even if the wait is a bit longer then so be it.

Indeed, people seem to be acting like every single different model of a certain card is always available with millions in stock at launch. That is rarely the case and some custom versions often take a few weeks/months to come through after the initial launch.
 
The sad part is the pricing mate. I saw many posts saying the 480 is not worth it because it's only 970 performance and the 970 was available 2 years ago. Isn't it hypocritical now to say the 1060 is all fine when it is essentially the same scenario but with a worse price point?

I am not looking at any bad points of the card since we don't know how it performs yet. What I can look at is the pricing problem we seem to be experiencing because Nvidia is moving the price up a tier for each segment. I certainly do not like it and would still complain if AMD had done the same.

In fact I have reservations for the 480 too regarding pricing since I think it should be £200 or less ideally but Brexit has obviously affected that a lot.
In regards to the 1060 I don't think Nvidia should be excused for moving the RRP up to 970 levels on a 970 segment card no matter if it performs like a 980.

The whole premise of getting higher performance at existing price points for the next gen cards has been shot to pieces by Nvidia.

Well I look at this card as a rival to the $239 RX 480 and at $10 more, a fair rival as well. Both have some plus and minuses in my book (the 480 can be crossfired but the 1060 can't be run in SLI. According to wccftech, the 1060 is faster than a 980 and the 460 is slower than a 980 etc). As for the 'many posts saying the 480 is 970 performance but that performance was available 2 years ago', it is a fair point but this has always been the way historically. I see competition as a good thing and look objectively at them all.
 
sour grapes much?

Enthusiasts already got 1070 and 1080's by the bucket. The cheap end already has the RX480. If 1060 is no good, the sales will reflect it as there are not many left to actually get it. it's simple economics as pretty much all angles have already been covered.

Don't like it? Don't buy it, there's your statement.

So you dont even remember the stuff your spouting then? ok right....
 
Actually i only checked the 1080 page this morning and the majority was still citing "Pre-Order" i did not look at the 1070, does not suprise though if theres plenty more 1070 than 1080 available, as the 1080 is the chip they are probably struggling the most to produce, so the weaker chips get binned for 1070, and the even weaker stuff will probably end up as 1060 it seems...

I've just checked now, I counted 12 ( twelve ) different 1080's available for sale ... twelve ...

The demand seems to be a lot higher than anyone predicted and it certainly seems like a lot more than the estimated 1% enthusiasts want to get these cards. Yes there are stock issues and they will continue more than likely for months. Tat was n't the point though, was it ?
 
Except the 480 starts at $199 which is a lot more than 15% cheaper


It seems there where no genuine 4gb cards, AMD gimped some 8gb cards through the bio's so they could promote the 480 as selling from a starting price of $199, A very limited run done for marketing IMO. If you didn't get one early you're unlikely to get one. Today you can't get a 480 for less that £220 and you can't get a 4gb period.
 
For one, you're comparing GB 480 pricing vs US 1060 pricing.

But you're also only comparing reference 480's vs reference AND 3rd party 1060's.

Already we have a 3rd party 480 that is selling for £250. We do not know where the upper limits will be for either card just yet.
That's all well and good but the reference 1060 is more expensive than the AIB partner cards nvidia would have you beleive.

So the 480 is cheaper than 180-230?

We can only go by what they have told us.
 
No, but it seems you are sure of these things and judging by your previous posts (most of which are pretty anti AMD and pro Nvidia) probably believe this to be fact....

Like i say, cite a credible resource, WCCF is not, if you want to be taken seriously, cite serious credible information, not clickbait articles.

Ok so ignore the link with the evidence that we have with the cards that are already released if the card already clocks to 1700Mhz boost where would you realistically expect that card to clock near without being such a narrow minded child in your response please.

I also didn't once state I was sure I said 'suppose' if you read my post properly and I am somewhat amazed that someone as actually been bothered to read my previous posts my god you must have some time on your hands. I buy cards regardless of who makes them or price I find it sad that people would give a crap both are out to make money its just one seems to do it better than the other at the moment. My favourite card after my Voodoo 3DFX ofcourse was my Hercules Prophet 9800XT this thread seems likes its clearly not for you. Try actually reading peoples posts because mine is not the only one you seem to have not read correctly and responded to.
 
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I've just checked now, I counted 12 ( twelve ) different 1080's available for sale ... twelve ...

The demand seems to be a lot higher than anyone predicted and it certainly seems like a lot more than the estimated 1% enthusiasts want to get these cards. Yes there are stock issues and they will continue more than likely for months. Tat was n't the point though, was it ?

you are correct, there is a lot more in stock now, still more than half are stating Pre-Order, but yep a lot more in stock.

1070 has a lot of stock also.

It still does not look good though, as these were released a good while ago and there are still waiting lists of people waiting to get these cards. So whats the hold up? Not that it matters to me as i dont buy Nvidia products, but if i did i would be a bit irked to be sat waiting for a product like this, im quite impatient so would have bought something else.

My points still stand though, there is a bottleneck somewhere that is affecting the production of these cards, and i dont think its down to sheer demand.
 
From the article:

NVIDIA Unveils The GeForce GTX 1060 Graphics Card – Starting at $249 US For 6 GB Variant

That may turn out incorrect, but that's what we've been told so far.

I haven't seen the announcement on any site apart from Videocardz and wccftech. There is no mention of it on Nvidia's own website so where have these guys got the info?
 
There's not much mentioned about the 3gb varient. 249 for custom 6gb and 299 for fe. The article I linked reckons the 3gb is different and will cost 149.
 
Why would you laugh? I dont get it.

You'd only be able to claim hypocrite if they slammed the 480 for it and then praise the 1060 for it. So maybe hold off on the smug, pre-accusatory attitude and see how things shape up instead of already acting insecure and defensive about the criticism the 480 got?

I don't care which card or brand has better, for me and some others it may depend on if the 1060 AIB is worth the extra cost over the RX480 AIB. I can see past the people that are however clearly brand bias on these forums, childish and have such attitude.

I disagree with your perspective...
Nothing smug about holding people to account for their own recent posts or attitudes. The point in fact is that if the RX480 having around 970/980 performance is lambasted by some here recently and called a failure by them or the same such people making suggestions that older clearance Nvidia products was a better purchase at that time.

Then I question how is the 1060 any different if indeed it is in similar performance levels to the RX480 but possibly at even greater cost with less ram?

MSRP means very little regards Nvidia lately and especially currently with the UK so until Gibbo confirms the prices for the first batches then folk arguing like in the RX480 thread too are kinda wasting their time. If production numbers are low then expect more price gouging to happen.
 
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I have read a couple of articles and no mention of the 1060 being a 3GB card and it has been stated that it will be 6GB and 3GB will be a different GPU (probably the 1050/Ti).

Thanks gregster posted at a similar time, haha. Yeah I was reading and noticed they were only talking about the 6gb. Read that other article and they mentioned the bit about the 3gb model.
 
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