***Han Solo movie***

If it was really that bad (TLJ) it wouldn't have done the sort of box office numbers it did.

It should have dropped massively after the opening weekend

I don't agree - I heard it was pretty dire but I still had to see it for myself and I suspect a lot of people were the same - I honestly didn't believe it was as bad as a bunch of my friends who'd gone to see it on release day were making out.
 
Vincent Hannah and Mr Jack. The laurel and hardy of film reviewers........

Are you two brothers by the way or is this someone with two accounts , strange how they always post at the same time.
 
"actual film reviews" can be a bit dodgy at times - see best movie ever made, the Black Panther...

I also thought TLJ wasn't too bad, I didn't see it at the cinema but still bought it on Blue Ray, in spite of some of the negative feedback, since it is a Star Wars movie
 
The Last Jedi is "an excellent middle chapter bursting with wit, wisdom, emotion, shocks, old-fashioned derring-do, state-of-the-art tech, and stonking set-pieces," according to Totalfilm.

*snigger*

A somewhat generous but more balanced 3 star take on it from Amazon:

Oliver Willetts said:
This is a movie I thoroughly enjoyed at first, but the more I watch it the more I see how mediocre it really is. It takes some bold risks, which at first I praised and still do to a small extent, but looking back they really were stupid things to do and it just felt like the director's fan-fiction, more than a professionally made film. It's definitely better than 1 and 2, I'll give it that, but overall, after The Force Awakens, it had so much potential to follow up on some potentially great storylines and character arcs, but instead just decided to throw it all away. (Also many of the characters were extremely annoying, specifically Holdo and Rose). Hopefully Episode IX can do its best to repair some of the things this film did.

Before someone pumped a load of 5 star reviews with almost the same wording many sites like Amazon, iTunes, etc. had ratings of approx 40% negative, 30% positive and the rest in between - now it is 43% 5 star to 29% 1 star on Amazon with 834 positive versus 709 critical reviews but the up/down voting of comments still tells the real story despite the PR job to raise ratings.
 
Just watched this and it was...alright. Not great, but decent and much better than TLJ though a big step down from Rogue One for me. I don't think Han's actor really nailed Harrison Ford enough though. He didn't sound or look anywhere near close enough considering it's only set about a decade before ANH. Nothing against the actor, I thought his acting was pretty good, but it was pretty immersion breaking for me. Emilia Clarke is a terrible actress though, basically acts the same way in everything. Also, **** L3, more SJW ******** :rolleyes:.
 
Also, **** L3, more SJW ******** :rolleyes:.

I really do think that, in the original more comedic version (before the directors were sacked) L337 was supposed to be a joke but after Howard took over he didn't quite realise so made it a serious character instead. At least it died though, which is something!
 
I really do think that, in the original more comedic version (before the directors were sacked) L337 was supposed to be a joke but after Howard took over he didn't quite realise so made it a serious character instead. At least it died though, which is something!

It would have been interesting to see the original directors vision, as it stands now its almost like L3 and Lando have a 'thing'?....its a bit creepy. And then i guess Disney or Kennedy have to retroactively ruin the original trilogy by injecting this idea that one of the most annoying feminist sjw characters ever created has been in the Millennium Falcon all the time.....
 
I have stayed away from the comments about this film and I watched it yesterday. I really enjoyed it. Ignoring some of the plot holes I thought it was a really enjoyable romp seeing the dynamics of Chewie and Han come together. The bit where you see them together in the cockpit made me smile. I think I would put it on a par with my enjoyment of Rogue One.
 
It would have been interesting to see the original directors vision, as it stands now its almost like L3 and Lando have a 'thing'?....its a bit creepy. And then i guess Disney or Kennedy have to retroactively ruin the original trilogy by injecting this idea that one of the most annoying feminist sjw characters ever created has been in the Millennium Falcon all the time.....

How is being anti-slavery "Feminist SJW" exactly? L3 is annoying character with an annoying arc who fits poorly into the Star Wars universe but that's it.
 
How is being anti-slavery "Feminist SJW" exactly? L3 is annoying character with an annoying arc who fits poorly into the Star Wars universe but that's it.

The "Feminist SJW" thing isn't literal - but the traits of the character are fairly similar to the current wave of outrage-culture millenial tumblr types (if you applied it to droid rights/slavery rather than feminisim or politics or whatever this weeks Facebook topic everyone won't shut up about might be)...

Perhaps unintentionally so (or part of the earlier cut as suggested above) but either way it just felt too topical to me, which was why it seemed so annoying/out of place... as I've always felt that the stories in Star Wars are fantasy - an escape from reality, not a reminder of it or a reference to parts of it... Exact same reason the Canto-Bight section in TLJ felt a bit off

And aside from that I think the other reason the character was hard to accept was that there wasn't any attempt to make the voice actress deliver the lines to sound remotely like a droid... Anthony Daniels delivered his C3PO lines in a certain way, whereas recently they just seem to get the actor to say all the lines in their normal voice and then add a filter over it... the character ends up feeling like a person in a robot suit rather than an actual droid

Just my 2 cents of course!
 
And aside from that I think the other reason the character was hard to accept was that there wasn't any attempt to make the voice actress deliver the lines to sound remotely like a droid... Anthony Daniels delivered his C3PO lines in a certain way, whereas recently they just seem to get the actor to say all the lines in their normal voice and then add a filter over it... the character ends up feeling like a person in a robot suit rather than an actual droid

I think this is it, as much as we loved C3PO and R2D2 they very much acted like how we would expect a droid to act. They acted like they were programmed rather than had feelings and fitted in with all the other droids in the SW universe. Where as K2, L3 and to a certain extent BB8 are just a bit too 'capable' (physically and intellectually) to fit in with how you would expect a droid to act.

A part of that is because of the advances in film making, what is possible now couldn't be done back in the 70's and 80's but the delivery of the lines could be more 'droid like' and some of it is to appeal to a younger audience, the expectation of that a droid could do has shifted over the last 30 years.
 
one of the most annoying feminist sjw characters ever created has been in the Millennium Falcon all the time.....

Which kind of makes Han a "woman" beater as he repeatedly has to whack that same area of the cockpit where "she" is downloaded to get the MF to power-up in the later films :eek:

SARCASM :D
 
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