Harry and Meghan to resign

adidan said:
I'm no Royalist but as an observer it always amazes me the ire and newspaper coverage that this couple recieve compared to that of Andrew.
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Difference is Andrew keeps quite and out of public (if he were still doing Royal duties he would get egged in public I'm sure) but on the other hand Megan and Harry are given platforms to say whatever they want without having to facedown or answer any questions or criticism. Any interviews they do are all carefully managed and curated and while certain folks eat it up most of us can see through it for what it is.
 
dowie said:
I don't really understand this line of criticism, Andrew has had plenty of flack from the press for rather dirtier allegations but it's almost like there's some implication that because he's worthy of criticism then that means others shouldn't be criticised?
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Maybe that line of criticism is based on the fact that paying £12 million to stave off criminal investigations is not even in the same ballpark as not blinking the way nutters expect you to blink.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
Maybe that line of criticism is based on the fact that paying £12 million to stave off criminal investigations is not even in the same ballpark as not blinking the way nutters expect you to blink.
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I mean I could cite some really nasty murderer or something and state that being a really nasty murderer isn't even in the ballpark of dishing out some dirt on Oprah or bullying allegations but people simply aren't as interested in the really nasty murderer save for perhaps at the time of the incident or the trial...

Do you not get that? The main driver here isn't the severity of what was done but the level of public interest in them. It peaked a bit for Andrew during parts of the scandal but in general, people simply aren't as interested in him as they are in Harry and Megan.
 
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dowie said:
I mean I could cite some really nasty murderer or something and state that being a really nasty murderer isn't even in the ballpark of dishing out some dirt on Oprah or bullying allegations but people simply aren't as interested in the really nasty murderer save for perhaps at the time of the incident or the trial...

Do you not get that? The main driver here isn't the severity of what was done but the level of public interest in them. It peaked a bit for Andrew during parts of the scandal but in general, people simply aren't as interested in him as they are in Harry and Megan.
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You could do that, or you could consider your question that I was responding to; we're not comparing anyone to a nasty murderer, we're comparing Meghan to a nasty sex pest and I'm giving you my opinion on why he merits a little bit more criticism than a lady who can't cry the way the nutters expect her to cry.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
You could do that, or you could consider your question that I was responding to; we're not comparing anyone to a nasty murderer, we're comparing Meghan to a nasty sex pest and I'm giving you my opinion on why he merits a little bit more criticism than a lady who can't cry the way the nutters expect her to cry.
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That's completely missing the point though... I'm well aware that you weren't comparing anyone to a nasty murderer it was simply an example to illustrate the point.

That person A has done a bad thing doesn't mean that we can't talk about person B doing a less bad thing.

If person B has more public interest then person B will typically have more coverage than person A. If person B has a 70:30 mix of praise:criticism but is more prominent and generates more public interest then even the criticism aspect alone might well eclipse the volume of coverage of the say 10:90 mix of praise and criticism person A gets.

Highlighting that person A is generally considered to be a far worse person than person B is a rather moot point in reference to the amount of coverage they're given as it's easily eclipsed by the level of interest in them.

StriderX said:
How much is that to do with the media making them a spectacle?
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They're inherently going to be of interest to the public simply because of who Harry is, though they've done plenty to attract additional interest and coverage themselves.
 
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Meghan and Andrew both made ill-advised publicity stunts with Maitless&Oprah - principally the cause of their predicaments
Meghan made salacious unproven allegations against the defenseless RF, Andrew settled against the unproven virginia civil allegations through fear of the scandal.

(as said) Andrews, sensibly, gone quiet, meanwhile Meghan needs to continue to court attention from media because they represent their future income,
so why should people forget her unproven accusations - didn't the blink thing come from social media, like the chancellors gooning.
 
jpaul said:
Meghan and Andrew both made ill-advised publicity stunts with Maitless&Oprah - principally the cause of their predicaments
Meghan made salacious unproven allegations against the defenseless RF, Andrew settled against the unproven virginia civil allegations through fear of the scandal.

(as said) Andrews, sensibly, gone quiet, meanwhile Meghan needs to continue to court attention from media because they represent their future income,
so why should people forget her unproven accusations - didn't the blink thing come from social media, like the chancellors gooning.
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Wait you are comparing a guy that hung around with and used the services of a convicted paedo to a woman of mixed race? WOW!
 
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Dirk Diggler said:
Nope, I'm having none of that nonsense. I haven't missed the point at all, you're simply attempting to create an alternative point to argue.
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Eh? I'm referring to the point I made and which you quoted and demonstrated (via your objection) you seemingly hadn't followed, I'm not creating an alternative point to argue.
 
There is unfortunately no way that Harry and Meghan the bully's marriage will go the distance. There's just too much opposing tension from their respective positions and loyalties.

I hope he has fun in the meantime though as I bet she's an absolute berserker in the sack.
 
keyser van someone said:
www.theguardian.com

Meghan and Harry’s documentary has hit the raw nerve of tabloid prejudice | David Olusoga

I was an interviewee in the Netflix series. The scale and fury of the backlash to the comments on race and royals is revelatory
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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I haven't watched the series and probably won't, but I'm always rooting for them. It's disgusting how they've been treated, and their situation exposes an arguably worse relationship that the British have with their tabloid press in general.

What they also expose is a truly sinister family/institution at the very top of British society - and the truth really does sting when the light finally shines on it. Harry is to the Royals what the choirboy was to the Catholic church when the collective "he" found the courage to speak out as an adult.

..they heard the voices of a young woman of colour and her husband, who have been subjected of an unprecedented campaign of abuse and vilification, telling us what that all felt like..
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Dirk Diggler said:
I haven't watched the series and probably won't, but I'm always rooting for them. It's disgusting how they've been treated, and their situation exposes an arguably worse relationship that the British have with their tabloid press in general.

What they also expose is a truly sinister family/institution at the very top of British society - and the truth really does sting when the light finally shines on it. Harry is to the Royals what the choirboy was to the Catholic church when the collective "he" found the courage to speak out as an adult.
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I think they're more than milking it. I don't doubt that some things were said, and everyone knew the old Duke was a bit of a casual racist. But I think these two have really blown things out of proportion just for a pay day.

Harry has turned into such a wet drip it's unimaginable.
 
Semple said:
I think they're more than milking it. I don't doubt that some things were said, and everyone knew the old Duke was a bit of a casual racist. But I think these two have really blown things out of proportion just for a pay day.

Harry has turned into such a wet drip it's unimaginable.
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I think this sums up the issue; it was all just the "normal" way and they should just have accepted it.

Good for them for not accepting it, IMO.
 
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