Hazro - Any Update?

1:1 pixel mapping doesnt work very well on the current version with widescreen resolutions.
The only ones that work are 1920 x 1080 and native. Others like 1680 x 1050 and 1440 x 900 go all funny.
Hazro told me in thier email this would be fixed.
Next time you have time could you check this please
 
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Hi,

1920x1080 scales to the correct aspect ratio fine, 1680x1050 also looks fine but as you'd expect text is quite fuzzy on the desktop and 1440x900 the same. In games you don't notice much difference though, perhaps a slight but of fuzziness on the HUD but otherwise perfectly fine to play sat back!
 
I use "full" 24/7 as I have never needed any other resolution other than standard HD modes or 4:3 for video input.

In that case please can you doa quick test and try and get 1280x1024 and 1440 x 900 running with "proper" 1:1 scaling to see if it's possible to run them unstretched and "natural" with black borders all the way round? :)
 
Ohh the questions we have :D

I would like some comments about the brightness of the screen.

Can you view solid white color fullscreen without beeing blindend ?

How low can you turn the brightness before you loose dark level details ?
 
Ohh the questions we have :D

I would like some comments about the brightness of the screen.

Can you view solid white color fullscreen without beeing blindend ?

How low can you turn the brightness before you loose dark level details ?

With proper calibration both of those become moot.

I actually have mine slightly darker than calibrated because colour reproduction isn't as important as being able to look at the thing for very long stretches whilst coding...when I need accurate colours I whack it back to the calibrated setting.
 
Just read through this entire thread again, and something I noticed concerned me:

The panel itself is different to the previous HZ24W, the previous panel was matt finish whilst this one is glossy exactly like the NEC 20" GX IPS panel but the clarity and vibrancy of photographs is absolutely sublime! The Wi has the same polariser as on the 26" screen.

GLOSSY!! Argh! I went to PC world today to take a look at an apple cinema screen as I haven't seen anything other than TN panels. Sure enough, one was there, and no matter which angle I viewed it from, the colours stayed pretty much perfect. However the glossy-ness was so annoying! I could see my reflection in it when using MAC OSX, and I would imagine that ANY light on the screen will result in glare.

Is the Hazro that bad?
 
With proper calibration both of those become moot.

I actually have mine slightly darker than calibrated because colour reproduction isn't as important as being able to look at the thing for very long stretches whilst coding...when I need accurate colours I whack it back to the calibrated setting.

Thanx for reply. Hehe actually had to look moot up in the dictonary (I'm from Denmark)

As I like it dark too and would probably keep it at these settings. At your prefered setting (a little darker) how many squares can you see here: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
 
Hi,

1920x1080 scales to the correct aspect ratio fine, 1680x1050 also looks fine but as you'd expect text is quite fuzzy on the desktop and 1440x900 the same. In games you don't notice much difference though, perhaps a slight but of fuzziness on the HUD but otherwise perfectly fine to play sat back!

I didnt mean scaling, I mean 1:1 pixel mapping.
It should use the native resolution ( 1680 x 1050 ) on a 1920 x 1200 screen would put borders around the whole image.
You need to set " user defined " to get 1:1 pixel mapping assuming the menu is the same as the old model.
 
Thanx for reply. Hehe actually had to look moot up in the dictonary (I'm from Denmark)

As I like it dark too and would probably keep it at these settings. At your prefered setting (a little darker) how many squares can you see here: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

About half of them...as I said, not very accurate, but perfect for very long stretches in a semi-darkened room (I have a lamp pointed at the wall behind my monitor as this light then nicely diffuses behind the screen helping keep eye strain down!

GLOSSY!! Argh! I went to PC world today to take a look at an apple cinema screen as I haven't seen anything other than TN panels. Sure enough, one was there, and no matter which angle I viewed it from, the colours stayed pretty much perfect. However the glossy-ness was so annoying! I could see my reflection in it when using MAC OSX, and I would imagine that ANY light on the screen will result in glare.

Is the Hazro that bad?

Apple cinema screens aren't glossy, are you sure you weren't looking at an iMac 24"?
 
About half of them...as I said, not very accurate, but perfect for very long stretches in a semi-darkened room (I have a lamp pointed at the wall behind my monitor as this light then nicely diffuses behind the screen helping keep eye strain down!



Apple cinema screens aren't glossy, are you sure you weren't looking at an iMac 24"?

Nope, not sure at all. But it was definately either IPS or PVA as no matter how far I crouched down (and had shoppers wondering what the hell I was doing), I couldn't see the TN-Film viewing angle issue. Neither the spec sheet, nor the back of the monitor said "cinema display". However, it could have well been an imac.

Even if cinema displays do not have glossy screens, this was definately a glossy, non-tn film screen, and I found it very distracting! I was pretty much set on the Hazro until I saw this. I would much rather have the TN-Film viewing angle issue rather than have this reflection in the "glass" of the monitor!
 
Nope, not sure at all. But it was definately either IPS or PVA as no matter how far I crouched down (and had shoppers wondering what the hell I was doing), I couldn't see the TN-Film viewing angle issue. Neither the spec sheet, nor the back of the monitor said "cinema display". However, it could have well been an imac.

Even if cinema displays do not have glossy screens, this was definately a glossy, non-tn film screen, and I found it very distracting! I was pretty much set on the Hazro until I saw this. I would much rather have the TN-Film viewing angle issue rather than have this reflection in the "glass" of the monitor!

If you look at the apple site, the iMac has a big flat silver bit below the screen with a large black apple logo on display. The cinema display does not (it has a pretty uniform bezel with a tiny silver apple logo).

As far as the glossyness goes, if you look, mrk has posted a photo with the screen contents on in full daylight. The glossyness will be different from the iMac one, as the iMac is an apple added "glossy" screen cover, the glossyness on the Hazro is part of the anti-glare and new polarizer as applied to the screen by LG and as present on the NEC 20" panel.
 
If you look at the apple site, the iMac has a big flat silver bit below the screen with a large black apple logo on display. The cinema display does not (it has a pretty uniform bezel with a tiny silver apple logo).

As far as the glossyness goes, if you look, mrk has posted a photo with the screen contents on in full daylight. The glossyness will be different from the iMac one, as the iMac is an apple added "glossy" screen cover, the glossyness on the Hazro is part of the anti-glare and new polarizer as applied to the screen by LG and as present on the NEC 20" panel.

Ah ok, this reassures me a lot.....

yeah, i saw Mrk's pics, but then, pics are always differently to actually looking at the thing yourself (not that I dont appreciate all the great work Mrk has done!).

Thanks for the reply.
 
I didnt mean scaling, I mean 1:1 pixel mapping.
It should use the native resolution ( 1680 x 1050 ) on a 1920 x 1200 screen would put borders around the whole image.
You need to set " user defined " to get 1:1 pixel mapping assuming the menu is the same as the old model.

Yes standard widescreen resolutions do not have a border anywhere (1440x900 etc) but 16:9 resolutions have the letterbox (1280x720, 1920x1080 etc) when using the "Wide" aspect ratio mode.

Is the Hazro that bad?

Not at all :)
 
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It would seem so, there is no set 1:1, only "wide" which is 1:1 for any 16:9 resolution. 5:4 resolutions are scaled vertically with borders on sides whilst 4:3 has it's own preset ratio setting.

I also think the DVI cable bundled with the HZ24Wi is not as good quality as the one I got with the non "i" model, I kept the previous DVI cable and noted that this cable is fatter than the new cable and all black whereas the new cable has white connector heads like any other bundled DVI cable.

I think the previous cable is of higher quality because I noticed a strange green line flickering across when watching web content (flash) on dark/black areas so I swapped the cable to the old one and not seen them since.

Perhaps the new cable supplied with mine is faulty though I don't know!
 
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Yes standard widescreen resolutions do not have a border anywhere (1440x900 etc) but 16:9 resolutions have the letterbox (1280x720, 1920x1080 etc) when using the "Wide" aspect ratio mode.



Not at all :)

So it looks like they didnt bother to fix the 1:1 pixel mapping for 16:10 widescreen resolutions......Bummer :(
 
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