Hazro - Any Update?

Mick-1965 said:
Can I just say if you can screen grab (alt prtscrn) the fault and every one else can see it then the fault lies with the graphics card, drivers or even settings.
All alt prtscrn does is take a copy of the buffer on the graphics card.

Make sure you have the correct bit depth set, 24 bit or above latest GC drivers.
Ive just tried photo shop gradient and see no such phenonemom
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Mine seems to have the same 'problem' although I personally don't think it's an issue! The screen seems far superior to my old 17" Viewsonic TFT so I am happy! Does anyone else think the panel is brighter in the middle than the left and right sides? I guess it may be due to the panel needing time to 'bed in'...
 
Far too many problems with this monitor for the price. I sense it's worth waiting atleast a year until the choice of monitors available really begins to improve.
 
williamd said:
Far too many problems with this monitor for the price. I sense it's worth waiting atleast a year until the choice of monitors available really begins to improve.
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I would disagree - I don't there will ever be a perfect monitor and, at the end of the day, a lot of these don't matter when you're just using the screen!

As far as input lag is concerned, I have noticed none (although I know it exists).
 
williamd said:
Far too many problems with this monitor for the price. I sense it's worth waiting atleast a year until the choice of monitors available really begins to improve.
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once you see one of these thing in real life you will be impressed.

A couple of small problems have been found whilst using software that is designed to do so. Its nothing that you wouldnt find on another brand of monitor.
 
Sylver123 said:
nightrhyme,

I, and im sure others here are too, hoping the HZ26Wi 26" turns out to be just as good quality as HZ24Wi 24", and as a bonus, its input lag being much better for gaming.
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Yeah. I just sit here anxiously waiting for someone to do a input lag test on a the 26WI as it will determine which one I pull the trigger on :p
 
Think im going to order this monitor, all the problems with the dell 2408 have put me off it totally, its time I upgraded from my 17 inch square to a proper monitor!
 
myshkinbob said:
Oh i made the screenshot for anyone who didn't want to download the program. I'm fairly certain the bands aren't on the source image as it never showed on the digimate 24" or my CRT.

Thanks for testing it on your hz24wi, you don't get the same effect that i do on a non-dithered vertical gradient? That narrows it down a bit. If you could try checkemon that'd be great too. :)

Thanks jack.mitchell too, i haven't really got access to a decent camera to photograph it either, but like you say, the distortion in the bands below the cursor is just like someone ran the smudge tool down the image.
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Ok
I assumed you took that screen grab your self as I see banding on that.
I downloaded checkmon and banding is also present.

If you load the image into PS you`ll also see banding, but if you zoom in so the gradients are not so compressed then the banding will dissapear at about 140 %.
This indicates its down to calibration. This is also confirmed if you adjust the cours in the monitors menu. The band width and frequency will change.
How ever Ive not noticed this banding in anything other than this checkmon. Ive not seen it in any games, I do a bit of photo and video editing and not noticed it there either. If this bothers you or you do colour critical work spend another 50 quid and buy your self some calibration gear. But personally I cant justify wasting the cash on some thing I dont notice in real life apps.
 
Anyone using a HZ24Wi on a Mac (Pro)?

Received mine yesterday, and have noticed a few foibles. When the Mac goes to sleep the display pops up a box saying that it can't display the image and never switches off. However if you turn it off then on again (while the mac is still sleeping), it says "no signal" (IIRC) for a bit then goes to sleep like it should.

Is this the same DPMS issue that was reported with the previous model?

Sat next to my Dell 2001FP, I have to say the image isn't quite as "crisp" as the Dell's, which is surprising. Eg. when I use this image as a backdrop:
http://www.johnmoranphoto.com/images/riverofdreamswallpaperlarge.jpg
the bark detail of the tree in the far background that's lit up is a little indistinct. (I have both set to display the image with re-sizing.)

The "sharpness" setting in the menu doesn't appear to do much. I don't have a calibration device (yet) and the Dell is using the built-in specific colour profile where as the Hazro defaults to "DIGITAL" - would calibrating it properly help here?

(OTOH, I don't think I'd have noticed if the 2001FP weren't sat there to compare it with...)

On the bright side, no sign of any stuck/dead pixels (yet, touch wood!), and when the dead pixel locator software was set to display all white on both screens, it looked like one of those "so you thought your shirt was white" washing powder adverts! It's no wonder the screen gets so warm - it puts out a lot more light than the Dell...

Jim
 
mrk, when watching movies on the screen ( I am using blu-rays) I am playing using PowerDVD. On the settings on powerdvd, I just have to keep the aspect ratio at "keep aspect ratio" and it seems to maintain the actual 1080p res, becasue it MUST be right?

My question is, in terms of the setting for 1:1 mapping, using the monitor's OSD, I can only select between 'full' and '4:3', and it doesn't seemt to provide a toggle option for 1:1 for 1080p. Becasue of the software, it seems to be using 1:1 inadvertently I think, but should the options show up there on the OSD?
 
The 1:1 mapping to 1080p is only for external sources like dvd players etc connected to other inputs, when playing a movies through your PC you're running in 1029x1200 and the software player will scale to 1080p anyway so no need to touch the OSD on the monitor at all :) You just have to tell the software to maintain original aspect ratio (default action for virtually all software)
 
Jimbo7 said:
Anyone using a HZ24Wi on a Mac (Pro)?

Received mine yesterday, and have noticed a few foibles. When the Mac goes to sleep the display pops up a box saying that it can't display the image and never switches off. However if you turn it off then on again (while the mac is still sleeping), it says "no signal" (IIRC) for a bit then goes to sleep like it should.

Is this the same DPMS issue that was reported with the previous model?
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I'll plug it into my G4 Mac Mini, as this also suffered from the DPMS issue with the old revision. Will report back shortly!
 
Jimbo7 said:
Cheers :)

Jim
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Goes to sleep fine on mine, I set it to put monitor to sleep after 1 min, it then flashes up the "no signal", first in the centre and then moves that about the four quadrants of the screen, it then flashes up "Going to Sleep" in a similar manner and turns off.

This is a G4 era Mac Mini with a discrete Radeon graphics chip.

Brightness issue: what does everyone else think about it just changing colours rather than dimming the backlight? The last revision definitely dimmed the backlight and as such had a much broader range from the bottom of the brightness scale to the top. This just seems to go from muddy to all grey/white.
 
You can also get closer to the 120cdm2 recommendations for an LCD for calibration by dropping all the RGB colour values to a lower value, default is +90 for every colour so drop it to say 50 then calibrate from there because at 90+ for each the cdm2 is over 400 at 50% brightness on the OSD, 0% brightness is still a high 300cdm2 !
 
mrk said:
You can also get closer to the 120cdm2 recommendations for an LCD for calibration by dropping all the RGB colour values to a lower value, default is +90 for every colour so drop it to say 50 then calibrate from there because at 90+ for each the cdm2 is over 400 at 50% brightness on the OSD, 0% brightness is still a high 300cdm2 !
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Problem is, if it's not dimming the backlight it's reducing the gamut, adding extra heat and will burn out the CCFL bulbs faster. It'll also mess the black level up - making the weak point of an IPS panel even weaker.
 
philjohn said:
Goes to sleep fine on mine, I set it to put monitor to sleep after 1 min, it then flashes up the "no signal", first in the centre and then moves that about the four quadrants of the screen, it then flashes up "Going to Sleep" in a similar manner and turns off.
This is a G4 era Mac Mini with a discrete Radeon graphics chip.
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What if you put the Mac itself to sleep though, rather than just the display?

Thanks,

Jim
 
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