Hazro HZ30W - Strengths and weaknesses

Duff-Man · 22 Dec 2008 at 06:30

Sylver123 said:
so i take it, if something goes wrong with it thay can`t fix, i`ll probably have to give them more money to get the new upgraded release? because if is the case, then i think i`ll just wait till the new panel version is relesed.

As I understand it, if the product dies under warranty then they are obliged to either repair the item, or replace it with another of equal or better specification. So, if you sent it back and the 3007-screen versions were no longer available, you would get a 3008-screen version as a replacement.

Scoobie Dave said:
What graphics card do you use with your 30"?

I'm using a 4870x2.

Looking at benchmarks, the framerates on the current single GPU solutions drop off fairly heavily at 2560, whereas the x2 (and particularly nvidia's upcoming card the GTX295) seem to hold their performance fairly well. Gaming at 2560 is pretty awesome though

Also I sit fairly close to the screen, so in FPS games I kind of get that imax effect

Scoobie Dave · 22 Dec 2008 at 08:44

Duff-Man said:
I'm using a 4870x2.

Looking at benchmarks, the framerates on the current single GPU solutions drop off fairly heavily at 2560, whereas the x2 (and particularly nvidia's upcoming card the GTX295) seem to hold their performance fairly well. Gaming at 2560 is pretty awesome though Also I sit fairly close to the screen, so in FPS games I kind of get that imax effect

Looks like im due a gfx card upgrade, although I will see how I get along with 1920x1200 gaming first!

makebelieve · 22 Dec 2008 at 13:10

Just noticed a new 30" at OCUK store

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...onal Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black Aluminium

Is this the one with the Q5 panel, as used in Dell 3008 and NEC 30?

kwak · 22 Dec 2008 at 13:26

yes, it says so in the description:

- All aluminium finished casing
- Viewable Area: 30” Widescreen (2560x1600 Resolution)
- Interface: DVI (Digital DVI (Dual Link) - HDCP support)
- Response Time: 5ms (8ms Black to Black)
- Hard coating(3H), Anti-glare treatment of the front polariser
- 16.7M Colours (102% Colour Gamut)
- Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 178°/ 178°
- Brightness: 370cd/m2
- Same panel as found in the DELL 3008WFP
- 3 Years On-Site Swap-Out with Hazro (2nd & 3rd year RTB) - Contact Hazro at [email protected]

Scoobie Dave · 22 Dec 2008 at 13:36

kwak said:
yes, it says so in the description:

- All aluminium finished casing
- Viewable Area: 30” Widescreen (2560x1600 Resolution)
- Interface: DVI (Digital DVI (Dual Link) - HDCP support)
- Response Time: 5ms (8ms Black to Black)
- Hard coating(3H), Anti-glare treatment of the front polariser
- 16.7M Colours (102% Colour Gamut)
- Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 178°/ 178°
- Brightness: 370cd/m2
- Same panel as found in the DELL 3008WFP
- 3 Years On-Site Swap-Out with Hazro (2nd & 3rd year RTB) - Contact Hazro at [email protected]

I wonder if this is going to be worth the extra £££ over the slightly older model?

Probably not much in it tbh.

makebelieve · 22 Dec 2008 at 14:08

kwak said:
yes, it says so in the description:

- All aluminium finished casing
- Viewable Area: 30” Widescreen (2560x1600 Resolution)
- Interface: DVI (Digital DVI (Dual Link) - HDCP support)
- Response Time: 5ms (8ms Black to Black)
- Hard coating(3H), Anti-glare treatment of the front polariser
- 16.7M Colours (102% Colour Gamut)
- Contrast Ratio: 3000:1
- Viewing Angle (H/V): 178°/ 178°
- Brightness: 370cd/m2
- Same panel as found in the DELL 3008WFP
- 3 Years On-Site Swap-Out with Hazro (2nd & 3rd year RTB) - Contact Hazro at [email protected]

ahem, i knew that :eek:

HornyRhino · 22 Dec 2008 at 14:54

Q5/3008 has high gammut compared to Q3/3007 panel.

also Q5/3008 panel have had a lot of bad Press lately due to failue rates, bad pixels in clusters, and other weird and wonderful faults...they must have really gone overboard on there production/manufacturing line equipment...maybe they had cutbacks: :confused:

i hear from several other forums that the dell 3008 even tho looks nice but plays bad due to high lag are returned to dell frequently due to panel problems unlike the 3007 which had way lower returns.

Scoobie Dave · 22 Dec 2008 at 15:42

HornyRhino said:
Q5/3008 has high gammut compared to Q3/3007 panel.

also Q5/3008 panel have had a lot of bad Press lately due to failue rates, bad pixels in clusters, and other weird and wonderful faults...they must have really gone overboard on there production/manufacturing line equipment...maybe they had cutbacks:

i hear from several other forums that the dell 3008 even tho looks nice but plays bad due to high lag are returned to dell frequently due to panel problems unlike the 3007 which had way lower returns.

Makes me feel better now I have bought the Q3/3007 panel!

HornyRhino · 22 Dec 2008 at 21:10

allthough i make the exception with the 30" Nec as that supposed to be the dogs dangly bits and is a very good screen with a price to match...
i think nec had a very rigerous QC with these panels maybe cherry-picked?
tho im not sure as to whether it uses a Q5 panel as its over a year old.... so if it is a Q3 panel like the hazro it just show the quality

makebelieve · 22 Dec 2008 at 21:32

HornyRhino said:
allthough i make the exception with the 30" Nec as that supposed to be the dogs dangly bits and is a very good screen with a price to match...
i think nec had a very rigerous QC with these panels maybe cherry-picked?
tho im not sure as to whether it uses a Q5 panel as its over a year old.... so if it is a Q3 panel like the hazro it just show the quality

Yep, its how a company deals with the panel that matters. I think NEC updated their model with the more recent panel, if they began with the Q3.

A quick search reveals this:
NEC LCD3090WQXi > 30"WS LG.Display A-TW H-IPS (LM300WQ5)
same panel as Dell 3008.

makebelieve · 22 Dec 2008 at 21:39

btw - has anyone hooked up a PS3/XBOX or other devices to the Hazro? If so, how has it handled it?

Scoobie Dave · 22 Dec 2008 at 22:05

makebelieve said:
btw - has anyone hooked up a PS3/XBOX or other devices to the Hazro? If so, how has it handled it?

I doubt very much anyone has with the 30" as it only has a DVI port.

Professional pc monitor you see!

Although I was thinking is there a way you can link up a xbox etc using a tv card as that might give you the input perhaps?

philjohn · 22 Dec 2008 at 22:34

Scoobie Dave said:
I doubt very much anyone has with the 30" as it only has a DVI port.

Professional pc monitor you see!

Although I was thinking is there a way you can link up a xbox etc using a tv card as that might give you the input perhaps?

You can probably bung the PS3 in by using a DVI<->HDMI cable (same protocol, different plug is all) but the lack of a scaler will make things a bit difficult.

Scoobie Dave · 22 Dec 2008 at 23:26

philjohn said:
You can probably bung the PS3 in by using a DVI<->HDMI cable (same protocol, different plug is all) but the lack of a scaler will make things a bit difficult.

Do you know if there are any tv cards that accept a input?

Sylver123 · 24 Dec 2008 at 01:03

I`m hoping that someone will have review up for the new Hazro HZ30W with the DELL 3008WFP panel very soon, comparing it against the old one on input lag, the quality of the screen colors and other things that made the old one popular.

I`m hoping that the new one is just as good when it comes down to input lag when gaming and has great picture quality like the old one.

makebelieve · 24 Dec 2008 at 02:36

Sylver123 said:
I`m hoping that someone will have review up for the new Hazro HZ30W with the DELL 3008WFP panel very soon, comparing it against the old one on input lag, the quality of the screen colors and other things that made the old one popular.

I`m hoping that the new one is just as good when it comes down to input lag when gaming and has great picture quality like the old one.

If the input lag on the Hazro is better than 2008wfp, then it surely wins where it lacks inputs.

Sylver123 · 24 Dec 2008 at 06:40

makebelieve said:
If the input lag on the Hazro is better than 2008wfp, then it surely wins where it lacks inputs.

I never said anything about 2008wfp. As the new Hazro HZ30W will be using the same panel as 3008WFP, i`m hoping the new HZ30W will be just as good as there older one which uses the 3007WFP panel.

makebelieve · 24 Dec 2008 at 13:39

Sylver123 said:
I never said anything about 2008wfp. As the new Hazro HZ30W will be using the same panel as 3008WFP, i`m hoping the new HZ30W will be just as good as there older one which uses the 3007WFP panel.

Sorry meant 3008wfp.

makebelieve · 24 Dec 2008 at 19:01

The prices on OC keep changing, the new Hazro 30 is cheaper than the old one now...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-000-HO £695
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-008-HO £689

tis odd

Scoobie Dave · 24 Dec 2008 at 19:11

makebelieve said:
The prices on OC keep changing, the new Hazro 30 is cheaper than the old one now...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-000-HO £695
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-008-HO £689

tis odd

I guess the older panel is better!

Gotta say im loving my full 30" of pleasure!